How about most impressive SS cars? - Page 6

Rich Biebel · 07-23-2010, 05:53 PM

Terry since you did Cobra Jet heads you would probably agree.......
They were about the only heads I know of where it was common to bolt torque plates to them to do a VJ........

We did some in the shop I worked at on some local CJ Stockers before heads were messed with. A good running C/SA Mustang CJ ran maybe 11.20's at less than 120

Frank Castros · 07-23-2010, 06:49 PM

Mopars, GM, Fords, it doesn't matter, too many kick *** cars in SS to mention!

Mike Gray · 07-23-2010, 07:19 PM

Kip Martins 289 mustang

bigshow2966 · 07-23-2010, 07:58 PM

Paul Rossi's Challenger and Jim Van Cleve's Fairlane were pretty cool.

cicero819 · 07-23-2010, 08:14 PM

Jack Mullins Pontiac Station Wagon, Rock Haas Mustang, John Armstrong ss/aa, Brian Oakes ss/da, Thomas ss/ba vette.

X-TECH MAN · 07-23-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Terry since you did Cobra Jet heads you would probably agree.......
They were about the only heads I know of where it was common to bolt torque plates to them to do a VJ........

We did some in the shop I worked at on some local CJ Stockers before heads were messed with. A good running C/SA Mustang CJ ran maybe 11.20's at less than 120

I never used a torque plate to do a valve job on the CJ heads I did back in the day. Dick picked up a plate once and we tried it and could see no real difference in the way the valves fit the seats plus it was a pain in the ***** to do. .I did use a plate on some other brands. The first set I did for Dick Estivez was in 1969 and they came originally from Gapp& Roush. They were a mess and after I fixed them Dick and Morgan picked up close to 4 tenths in the Red SS/I stick convert. The CC's were off and none were equal and I was able to get NHRA (Greg X) to accept unshrouding the exhaust valve using a stone that was .250 thou larger than the seat cut even though it cut the chamber wall. That was worth about 1 1/2 MPH. Remember this was in 1969 and we all were still learning. Morgan ( one of the best today) went on to build killer engines on his own such as for Ken Milie and Bill Hawk. I ended up working for Greg X in Div. 1 for about 2 years (1974-75) then went to IHRA for 22 1/2 years and just did heads on the side ( I had a good good Govt. job with bennies) for a lot of guys in the early1970's. Freddies Moores SS/IA SD Pontiac Firebird, Danny Lattimores SS/J Olds Cutlass if you remember any of those cars, this was before all the "acid porting" in stock and porting and welding in S/S became the thing to do. I also showed Greg and Marty Barrett (Div. 3)the difference between the standard CJ head and the Candian heads and how you could tell the difference without pulling them off the engine. Greg X in turn took the time and taught me how to check a camshaft overlap and duration (pre 1985 rules). Anyway thats my story and Im sticking to it.

Rich Biebel · 07-23-2010, 09:46 PM

Greg and Marty were the tech guys who checked us at Indy in 1966......and DQ'ed both us as r/up and the class winner ??? Robinson in I/SA
Greg was tough and always worked us over with our sedan delivery and then with our Chevy II a few years later....He seemd to let up a bit when we set the H/S record at Atco in Sept. 1970.....
Trust me I remember all the cars you mention.........

The CJ Heads had a reputation for the seats moving on the end cylinders once they were torqued. It was a royal PITA to do a VJ with torque plate on the heads......

I did head prep for years .......Our shop gid a great deal of machine work for T/K's......for many years.......I did heads....rods...blocks.....for well over 10 years......I know the life.....very well

I had/have a pretty complete head shop in my garage and built many engines and did heads in there for years........I still do an occasional set and have a pair of heads to freshen up this weekend....Brodix....bracket car...

Ed Fernandez · 07-23-2010, 10:15 PM

Scott Gove SS/AM 8.006 Atco 10/2006.No turbo,no nitrous just 358 CI's.

07-23-2010, 10:21 PM

Paul Adams, 64 Tbolt SS/B. 8.80's

Mike Schwartz · 07-23-2010, 11:51 PM

How about Jeff Tripp's SS/AM Monte Carlo? Definitely not the fastest car, but he drove it to Top Ten's in NHRA and IHRA in the same year.

07-23-2010, 05:53 PM	#51
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Terry since you did Cobra Jet heads you would probably agree....... They were about the only heads I know of where it was common to bolt torque plates to them to do a VJ........ We did some in the shop I worked at on some local CJ Stockers before heads were messed with. A good running C/SA Mustang CJ ran maybe 11.20's at less than 120 __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

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Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,967 Likes: 2,581 Liked 2,717 Times in 957 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Mopars, GM, Fords, it doesn't matter, too many kick *** cars in SS to mention!

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Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 615 Likes: 310 Liked 685 Times in 196 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Kip Martins 289 mustang

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bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 674 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Paul Rossi's Challenger and Jim Van Cleve's Fairlane were pretty cool.

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cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Jack Mullins Pontiac Station Wagon, Rock Haas Mustang, John Armstrong ss/aa, Brian Oakes ss/da, Thomas ss/ba vette.

07-23-2010, 09:46 PM	#57
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Greg and Marty were the tech guys who checked us at Indy in 1966......and DQ'ed both us as r/up and the class winner ??? Robinson in I/SA Greg was tough and always worked us over with our sedan delivery and then with our Chevy II a few years later....He seemd to let up a bit when we set the H/S record at Atco in Sept. 1970..... Trust me I remember all the cars you mention......... The CJ Heads had a reputation for the seats moving on the end cylinders once they were torqued. It was a royal PITA to do a VJ with torque plate on the heads...... I did head prep for years .......Our shop gid a great deal of machine work for T/K's......for many years.......I did heads....rods...blocks.....for well over 10 years......I know the life.....very well I had/have a pretty complete head shop in my garage and built many engines and did heads in there for years........I still do an occasional set and have a pair of heads to freshen up this weekend....Brodix....bracket car... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

07-23-2010, 10:15 PM	#58
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Scott Gove SS/AM 8.006 Atco 10/2006.No turbo,no nitrous just 358 CI's. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

07-23-2010, 10:21 PM	#59
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? Paul Adams, 64 Tbolt SS/B. 8.80's

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Mike Schwartz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 533 Likes: 129 Liked 248 Times in 89 Posts	Re: How about most impressive SS cars? How about Jeff Tripp's SS/AM Monte Carlo? Definitely not the fastest car, but he drove it to Top Ten's in NHRA and IHRA in the same year.