A case for aftermarket seats in stock

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by keith ohanesian

So lets see... When I wreck my car and my mother has to wipe my *** again and feed me.. I can always say my stocker "looked" stock! I can only shake my head at the stupid things people say!!

Keith,

You're right about saying stupid things.

You really think that with all the safety equipment in your car it's only the seat that keeps you from be a veggie....what an ignorant statement!

And why are you planning on wrecking your car? Are your driving skills so lacking?

JimR

[Tony Janes]

No jacket needed in N/SA and lower.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

No jacket needed in N/SA and lower.

Unless you put a 6 point in.Then it's belts and jacket time.

[danny waters sr]

In IHRA you have to have a jacket in ALL stock classes with a min of sfi 3.2A/1.In this years rule book on page 60.

[FlyingW]

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Keith,

You're right about saying stupid things.

You really think that with all the safety equipment in your car it's only the seat that keeps you from be a veggie....what an ignorant statement!

And why are you planning on wrecking your car? Are your driving skills so lacking?

JimR

Bet you Dale Earnhart sr. did not plan on wrecking his car and had great driving skills but dut to lack of safety in a car he is dead. now lets think about who has a ignorant statement.

Hey Mickey your 100% right one is to many, If we would of loss Woodro (praise God we didn't) would the rule still be the same. for anyone who say's its only a stocker, understand that at twenty five mph can break your neck. If you want do all you can to go home everynight to your faimly open your mind about safety.

Jeremy Waibel
NHRA STK 2231

[Chad Rhodes]

just as a rebuttal to the weight issue and the huge advantage it is; I just weighed our new 92 camaro H-I-J/SA car. Its no lightweight, heavier centerline wheels, stock brakes, nothing cut up or acid dipped, mild steel bar, stock POWER seats, etc. as it sits with me in it its 50 lbs light for H/SA, the lightest class it can run......................and I'm 245lbs. i don't see the whole weight issue. aftermarket seats would have just added to the massive amount of weight the car nees

[Jeff Lee]

There's not much hope for you as a stock racer if you can't see the value of taking 50+ pounds out of a pair of seats and putting it right where it needs to be towards the back.

I can't believe no comments or arrows at my idea of securing a stock seat base and seat back for zero movement! Unless I'm wrong, it is a simple solution. Since it has been ignored, I would have to say the real issue is some want after market seats under the guise of "safety" when in fact they are looking for better weight distribution.

[SS Engine Guy]

Jeff you probably won't get any responses because you have addressed the problem in a way that eliminates Kirkeys, etc. I have several customers cars that have had stock seats totally rebuilt using chromemoly frames with small rectangles attached where the belts go thru including lap belts. Re-covered with factory material including better flame-retardent filling. Couldn't tell them from factory unless they were examined very closely. We spend a thousand or fifteen hundred on the latest q-jet, 3-5k on stocker heads, etc. then gripe about prices for a seat that meets stocker criteria and provides additional saftey. Greg Hill's approach of a stocker "like" seat should be an option. Everyone wants saftey as long as it dosen't cost too much.
I see all the reckless money thrown at cars in an attempt to go faster but until last year alot were wearing pajama bottoms over shorts. I and everyone else wants the safest racing enviroment that can be provided yet you put yourselves on some of the worst racing surfaces in the most unsafe conditions time after time and then worry about the cost of a seat that meets the criteria for the class you run. Too many rules have been thrown out in S/SS already. If you want to run SS or Comp then put it on the window.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

There's not much hope for you as a stock racer if you can't see the value of taking 50+ pounds out of a pair of seats and putting it right where it needs to be towards the back.

I can't believe no comments or arrows at my idea of securing a stock seat base and seat back for zero movement! Unless I'm wrong, it is a simple solution. Since it has been ignored, I would have to say the real issue is some want after market seats under the guise of "safety" when in fact they are looking for better weight distribution.

Jeff there is plenty of hope for me as a stock racer and yes i do see the benefit, however if I move the car to I or J I'll have plenty of weight in the back and lighter seats would be a moot point. I realize some combinations would benefit more than others from being able to move weight back.................I'm also sure the benefited plenty from putting the weight lost from aftermarket brakes on the tag too. As for your solution, its a band-aid. There is a solution available, why not use the best solution available when there is a 99.9% chance it will never effect the outcome of a heads up race, but if it save one racer from serious injury I don't see how its a bad thing.

[Dan Fletcher]

When time permits, I'm definitely going to look into locking my seat in place, ie: taking the slide track function out. I rolled up to the lanes for round # whatever at Chicago earlier this year and got out of the car. When I went back by the driver's door, I noticed that the seat was significantly closer to the steering wheel than it was when I got out. A piece that locks the track in a given position had broken and the seat was free to just flop back and forth, although the springs kept it biased forwards.

I was able to make the run, as I'm tall and push the seat all the way back. Had a shorter, un-named friend of mine been driving, we would have had a problem...LOL...