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Old 07-18-2010, 07:28 PM   #51
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Dave u must be drinking some chitty azz bottled water what is the problem with a seat that is safer than a factory seat if this is passed and u dont like it keep ur factory seat let the majority change theirs if they want too as far as how many crashes we have had it only takes one to kill somebody WTF!
My problem with it is in my opinion stock eliminator cars should not look like this..
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:38 PM   #52
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I agree they should not look like that picture. The car needs seat covers and carpets, door panels.
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Old 07-18-2010, 08:33 PM   #53
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I find this thread interesting.
After reading the posts I kept thinking about the guys running the F.A.S.T. series.
Now that is a real stock appearing class !
And of course, the seats in those cars are 35 plus years old and those guys are running 10's now !

As for the 13 second guys running against 9 second cars, the NMRA and NMCA Open Comp classes allow a mid 15 second car to compete against an 8 second car. The subject of safety has come up on the NMRA message board about the speed/acceleration rate difference between two racers.

In most likelyhood, a serious accident (hopefully not) will be what it takes for NHRA to listen to the racers concerning seats.
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Old 07-18-2010, 09:08 PM   #54
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Forget the aftermarket seats in Stock. If you are REALLY concerned about safety, petition for AIR BAGS! My Expedition not only has front air bags, but side air bags.

In reading these post, it seems apparent a few don't know you can eliminate the factory seat track. Seats can be bolted to the floor directly. Mine have CM tubing with tabs that you bolt the seats to and the CM tubing is then welded to the floor. I had that when I raced in Stock. Rulebook states you must have "factory type front and rear seats" and to me that opens the door for non specific model year seats. "Vette seats in a '68 Camaro should be defend-able with any tech issues.

For SS, I found a really bitchin' pair of seats for $200 at a wrecking yard. They came off a Porsche and I think they are from a 911. Even have factory seat belt slots at the neck line. They weigh about 25 #'s each and I would not trade them for aluminum after market seats.
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:25 PM   #55
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My problem with it is in my opinion stock eliminator cars should not look like this..
is this a stocker? if so than WHO"S
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:27 PM   #56
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Forget the aftermarket seats in Stock. If you are REALLY concerned about safety, petition for AIR BAGS! My Expedition not only has front air bags, but side air bags.

In reading these post, it seems apparent a few don't know you can eliminate the factory seat track. Seats can be bolted to the floor directly. Mine have CM tubing with tabs that you bolt the seats to and the CM tubing is then welded to the floor. I had that when I raced in Stock. Rulebook states you must have "factory type front and rear seats" and to me that opens the door for non specific model year seats. "Vette seats in a '68 Camaro should be defend-able with any tech issues.

For SS, I found a really bitchin' pair of seats for $200 at a wrecking yard. They came off a Porsche and I think they are from a 911. Even have factory seat belt slots at the neck line. They weigh about 25 #'s each and I would not trade them for aluminum after market seats.
can the seat belts be routed through the middle and sides of the seat?
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:53 PM   #57
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Forget the aftermarket seats in Stock. If you are REALLY concerned about safety, petition for AIR BAGS! My Expedition not only has front air bags, but side air bags.

In reading these post, it seems apparent a few don't know you can eliminate the factory seat track. Seats can be bolted to the floor directly. Mine have CM tubing with tabs that you bolt the seats to and the CM tubing is then welded to the floor. I had that when I raced in Stock. Rulebook states you must have "factory type front and rear seats" and to me that opens the door for non specific model year seats. "Vette seats in a '68 Camaro should be defend-able with any tech issues.

For SS, I found a really bitchin' pair of seats for $200 at a wrecking yard. They came off a Porsche and I think they are from a 911. Even have factory seat belt slots at the neck line. They weigh about 25 #'s each and I would not trade them for aluminum after market seats.
Check out the rules Amendment for Stock Class seats.
SECTION 9 –STOCK
Page 9.9
INTERIOR: 6
UPHOLSTERY (April 15, 2010)
Must have full factory-type upholstery
for year/model claimed, including factorytype
floor mats or carpet, door panels and headliner, and front and rear seats.
Interior gutting prohibited. Driver’s seat tracks may be bolted down. Sun visors
optional. Rear seat may be removed when roll bar is installed; area must be
carpeted or upholstered equivalent to factory specifications (no bare paneling).

See General Regulations 6:2.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:13 PM   #58
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If your car leaves on the bumper now its because you are an IDIOT who doesn't know how to tune your racecar. And I never said it would make you win.

Also, you are a big man to call people names behind a cute name like clutch man. Sign your real name and we'll talk. I've probably forgotten more about what it takes to swing the stick then you will ever know.
Uh Dave,clutch man was rowing a 4 speed when you were still in grade school.He's done
very well for himself with a stick car.You might not agree with him but you hit the Bozo button with your comments about him.Just a heads up from a fellow racer.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:51 PM   #59
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Uh Dave,clutch man was rowing a 4 speed when you were still in grade school.He's done
very well for himself with a stick car.You might not agree with him but you hit the Bozo button with your comments about him.Just a heads up from a fellow racer.
Uh ED, It's not who you think it is, I don't think . Who you think it is, is a nice guy,and doesn't call people names.
Also, who you think it is, already has an account here in his own name .
Multiple identities aren't allowed ,are they?
Maybe call Kenny on his private line and ask him..LOL
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:18 AM   #60
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Forget the aftermarket seats in Stock. If you are REALLY concerned about safety, petition for AIR BAGS! My Expedition not only has front air bags, but side air bags.

In reading these post, it seems apparent a few don't know you can eliminate the factory seat track. Seats can be bolted to the floor directly. Mine have CM tubing with tabs that you bolt the seats to and the CM tubing is then welded to the floor. I had that when I raced in Stock. Rulebook states you must have "factory type front and rear seats" and to me that opens the door for non specific model year seats. "Vette seats in a '68 Camaro should be defend-able with any tech issues.

For SS, I found a really bitchin' pair of seats for $200 at a wrecking yard. They came off a Porsche and I think they are from a 911. Even have factory seat belt slots at the neck line. They weigh about 25 #'s each and I would not trade them for aluminum after market seats.
You must really be missing the point Mr.Lee.. Why would you want a seat that bends? They wont keep you contained.
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