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Old 07-12-2010, 08:11 AM   #1
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We need Rich Christensen to make it happen....he did it with Pinks and Passtime. Why not have it on the Speed channel ?
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:33 AM   #2
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What is missing on the shows is due to the people in high places and those doing the edits know nothing about drag racing, just promotion.
Its all about promotion and selling it to the public.
They just do the same thing as the wrestling people do, its all about the show.
If you note Pinks never shows the scoreboards with times and MPH. They show the start of the race and the finish line with very little in the middle. Not the whole 11 or 12 second run in most cases. That is called creative editing by someone who knows drag racing plus it does not have dead time with no action.
Until someone in charge with the TV coverage actually knows something about drag racing nothing will change.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:37 AM   #3
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What do you thing they think of W.J.
and the rest of the pro stocks not going to run the 2nd rd.
Does anyone know if they did spray before the 2nd rd ?
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:36 AM   #4
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There's another way of looking at the pro's and sportsman racing, ESPN may know that the sportsman racing would be alot more fun for TV audiance, but NHRA wants to keep just the pro catigories on the air. You're not going to get from a sportsman racer that his "Snap-on,Castrol, ARP,Jerico,Mcleod,Valvoline,Target,Walmart,Ford,Ch evy" broke out because he miss judged the finish line on an interview. That's it!

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Old 07-12-2010, 10:44 AM   #5
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Default Re: NHRA & ESPN must HATE sportsmen.

On a somewhat-related topic--does anyone know why NHRA doesn't have live finals/qualifying coverage anymore? I thought the reason they did away with it was due to oildowns and downtime causing them to run behind schedule. Now, with the 75 minute turnarounds for the Pro's, and limited Sportsman action on Sunday, why not go back to Live stuff? When Indy had live coverage during the weekend, they showed ALL Finals live, from Super Gas to Top Fuel. Why not now? You could still stick us lowly Sportsman into a five minute window and still have 2-3 hours of other time for your precious Pro Show. NHRA also used to have a live, all-day Sunday show on Pay Per View for a while, but I think I know why they don't now--NHRA would want too big of a cut from the cable/satellite providers for the providers to make any money.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:33 PM   #6
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NHRA also used to have a live, all-day Sunday show on Pay Per View for a while, but I think I know why they don't now--NHRA would want too big of a cut from the cable/satellite providers for the providers to make any money.
That was done at three national events in 1997. It was a shot at seeing how much interest such programs would draw. They didn't draw enough PPV viewers to continue doing PPV the next season.

I think the main reason they didn't draw enough viewers was because hardly anyone knew about it. Apparently it was under-promoted by ESPN and the NHRA to the point that some cable systems refused to provide the programs to their customers. I knew about the PPV because I was working in drag racing. My home town population was roughly 300,000 at the time. I assumed that PPV programs that were made available by major TV outlets would automatically be picked up and be available on all cable systems with the channel capacity to carry it. I was wrong. As the first PPV approached, I didn't see it available on my local cable system's schedule. I called them and asked about it, and I was told I was the only person in my city who asked for the program! They would not make it available for me to buy, so I missed the first one. A couple weeks before the second PPV was to be broadcast, it was the same deal - not on my cable system's schedule. I went down to their central office and talked to several people trying to get them to carry it. The answer was no....not enough interest. The next day I bought a DirecTV dish and receiver. The day after that, I installed it, and took my cable box down to their central office. I told them to cancel my service, and I told them why.

Given the number of hoops I had to jump through just to pay my $14.99/ event to see the second and third events, it's no wonder there weren't enough viewers to continue that type of programming.

The availability of such programming also likely scared the hell out of national event track owners. The Sunday front gate receipts (and parking and concessions) are make or break a season for some of them, and to see that cash flow diminish because live Sunday full event elimination coverage was available in the comfort of any fan's living room for $14.99 may also have been part of the reason the PPV ended after a three race trial.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:07 PM   #7
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I had Direct back then, and got all 3 PPV shows. Enjoyed them, too. I'd do it again, too, if I weren't at the races.
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Old 07-12-2010, 07:26 PM   #8
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There's another way of looking at the pro's and sportsman racing, ESPN may know that the sportsman racing would be alot more fun for TV audiance, but NHRA wants to keep just the pro catigories on the air. You're not going to get from a sportsman racer that his "Snap-on,Castrol, ARP,Jerico,Mcleod,Valvoline,Target,Walmart,Ford,Ch evy" broke out because he miss judged the finish line on an interview. That's it!

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I understand this point and this the problem, average people dont get it. But my mom wont watch Barrett Jackson either. I think laced with some heads up runs and wheelstanding drama, this wouldnt be a problem. Most of the people watching are enthusiasts. Point well taken though, some learning curve needs to happen but so what! you'd be surprised how many "withit" people are into it!

I think NHRA should try it, heck you can't feel a fuel car over the air either but people that have been there know. Heck they dont even televise the HEMI-SHOOTOUT. that's heads up and how cool is that I ask you!!!!

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Great thread! I couldn't agree with you more..
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We need Rich Christensen to make it happen....he did it with Pinks and Passtime. Why not have it on the Speed channel ?
I seem to remember saying the exact same thing a few months back, but was hammered by a handful of naysayers, which perpetuates (or persuades) the masses into thinking it's not the answer. I've discussed this at length with Rich. Guess what? It's up to us to support it, not him or anyone else. Also, fans support passion, not egos. Once everyone understands and accepts this, we then must collectively agree to work together. That's where Rich could be of help.
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