NHRA Safety, who are you kidding - Page 3

FED 387 · 06-30-2010, 09:01 AM

The 18 YO ruling goes back about 10-15 to the deal with Winston and the Fed govt.as the tobacco co's were legislated out of all forms of racing sponsorship-- An agreement was reached regarding under 18 drivers not competing at National events at that time-The divisionals were not included in the ruling---Since the tobacco co's can no longer be involved in NHRA racing I would think that rule could be rescinded now. Maybe call NHRA and push em a little see what kinda response ya get--Comp 387

Ron Finney · 06-30-2010, 09:29 AM

Rick,

Does the name Arlow Guthrie ring a bell?????......one of the most famuous songs ever....Alice's Restaurant!!!! If you have never heard this you must....however, grab a sandwich and a beer its about 15 minutes long......

Rick Bailey · 06-30-2010, 05:38 PM

Oh hell yeah.........that is a good ole' song........I just wasn't quick enought...... I think I'll u tube just for grins..............

Rick

DIAPERMAN · 06-30-2010, 07:16 PM

Us old guys have a hard enough time,lets keep the young hot shots out till they are 18 Ha! Ha!

CBS · 07-01-2010, 11:14 AM

Jeff,

Was I over by the centerline......lol....its such a narrow lane...see you guys in Stanton....

I will ask for rule changes....but the 18 yr old thing....I don't know.....don't the kids beat up on us enough.....lol

Jason Oldfield · 07-01-2010, 11:46 AM

Heck, in NY a kid can't even get their license until they're 17 now, but even then only if they took driving classes. Without the driver safety classes, it is 18.

Personally, I'm all for a complete ban on anyone under the age of 39.

voltdr · 07-02-2010, 09:25 PM

A few years back, at the Cajun Sportsnationals In Belle Rose, I left the starting line with my visor up. There was a nice color photo in ND of the race. Danny Gracia sent me a letter a week later telling me of me violation, and referencing the pic in ND, and the future consequences if I did it again. Since that race I have seen so many violations of Pro drivers in TF, FC, PS, removing their safety equipment while still on the track. You watch the in-car cameras for Greg Anderson, Jason Line, Morgan Lucas etc. removing their gloves, HANS straps while still at a high rate of speed. I wonder how many of them received letters threatening fines and point penalties. Last year at Memphis, Luke Bogaki had his head completely in front of the cage while winning SC.
The only thing that will stop this is to DQ a few drivers and the rest will fall in line. Don't even get me started about the local NHRA tracks that allow 4.70 dragsters race with blue jeans or less. Both of my typing fingers are already sore from this.

Jeff Beckman · 07-03-2010, 10:35 AM

Rock, I did not mean in the pit space, I meant down track!

Seriously I am concerned that one day 2 drivers moving in for the view out of the groove and one looses traction, well you get it. I do understand it, just like braking on the big end, its tuff to enforce. I think if smoke comes off your tires at the big end it is a DQ, if your heads out of the cage its a DQ, if you finish every lap on the centerline, ita a DQ. The issue will be, who do we get thats going to baby sit us?

06-30-2010, 09:01 AM	#21
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,423 Likes: 538 Liked 333 Times in 180 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding The 18 YO ruling goes back about 10-15 to the deal with Winston and the Fed govt.as the tobacco co's were legislated out of all forms of racing sponsorship-- An agreement was reached regarding under 18 drivers not competing at National events at that time-The divisionals were not included in the ruling---Since the tobacco co's can no longer be involved in NHRA racing I would think that rule could be rescinded now. Maybe call NHRA and push em a little see what kinda response ya get--Comp 387

06-30-2010, 09:29 AM	#22
Ron Finney Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greenwood, IN Posts: 168 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding Rick, Does the name Arlow Guthrie ring a bell?????......one of the most famuous songs ever....Alice's Restaurant!!!! If you have never heard this you must....however, grab a sandwich and a beer its about 15 minutes long...... __________________ Ron Finney 396V S/C

06-30-2010, 05:38 PM	#23
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding Oh hell yeah.........that is a good ole' song........I just wasn't quick enought...... I think I'll u tube just for grins.............. Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

06-30-2010, 07:16 PM	#24
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding Us old guys have a hard enough time,lets keep the young hot shots out till they are 18 Ha! Ha!

07-01-2010, 11:14 AM	#25
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding Jeff, Was I over by the centerline......lol....its such a narrow lane...see you guys in Stanton.... I will ask for rule changes....but the 18 yr old thing....I don't know.....don't the kids beat up on us enough.....lol

07-01-2010, 11:46 AM	#26
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding Heck, in NY a kid can't even get their license until they're 17 now, but even then only if they took driving classes. Without the driver safety classes, it is 18. Personally, I'm all for a complete ban on anyone under the age of 39. __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

07-02-2010, 09:25 PM	#27
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 706 Likes: 77 Liked 100 Times in 51 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding A few years back, at the Cajun Sportsnationals In Belle Rose, I left the starting line with my visor up. There was a nice color photo in ND of the race. Danny Gracia sent me a letter a week later telling me of me violation, and referencing the pic in ND, and the future consequences if I did it again. Since that race I have seen so many violations of Pro drivers in TF, FC, PS, removing their safety equipment while still on the track. You watch the in-car cameras for Greg Anderson, Jason Line, Morgan Lucas etc. removing their gloves, HANS straps while still at a high rate of speed. I wonder how many of them received letters threatening fines and point penalties. Last year at Memphis, Luke Bogaki had his head completely in front of the cage while winning SC. The only thing that will stop this is to DQ a few drivers and the rest will fall in line. Don't even get me started about the local NHRA tracks that allow 4.70 dragsters race with blue jeans or less. Both of my typing fingers are already sore from this.

07-03-2010, 10:35 AM	#28
Jeff Beckman Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 308 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Safety, who are you kidding Rock, I did not mean in the pit space, I meant down track! Seriously I am concerned that one day 2 drivers moving in for the view out of the groove and one looses traction, well you get it. I do understand it, just like braking on the big end, its tuff to enforce. I think if smoke comes off your tires at the big end it is a DQ, if your heads out of the cage its a DQ, if you finish every lap on the centerline, ita a DQ. The issue will be, who do we get thats going to baby sit us? __________________ Jeff Beckman 318J ET, SG 318T SC