Dean Oliver ??????

Dean Oliver · 06-16-2010, 06:52 PM

I had two kidney stones that knocked me for a loop. I passed one in the ER a week ago this past Saturday only to be back in the hospital to have a second one removed the following Monday. After they removed the second one they inserted a stint from my kidney to my bladder, and that thing was uncomfortable to say the least. I had to have five different pain medications including morphine to make the pain go away in the ER, so I guess that tells you that it either hurt really bad or I'm a big sissy. Anyway, I actually feel normal today. Thanks to Alan and others with diet advice for kidney stone people like me.

I would like to share this with everyone in case it might help somebody. My doctor said that despite all of the dietary changes suggested by various internet sources that are supposed to help prevent the formation of kidney stones, there are basically two things that have been shown to consistently help patients. He said that for 85% of kidney stone people, if you (1) drink enough water (divide your weight by 2 to determine the number of ounces of water that you should drink per day) and (2) don't add salt to your food, you will never have another stone. Hopefully I'm in that 85%........

Thanks everyone for the calls and the get well wishes.

Dean

MYRONARL1119 · 06-17-2010, 10:13 AM

Dean, Your doctor gave you part of the story. Let me tell you about the other possibility for kidney stones. I have had probably 30 in my life time and can only agree that they are very painful, and pain medication is your freind. The other thing that causes stones is something called Oxalate. More than likely most of your favorite foods are high in oxalates, and a low oxalate diet is difficult at best. Some foods high in oxalates are berries, fruit salads,grapes,lemon,rhubarb,beetroot,chard,parsley ,spinach ,and nuts. Also soy products are on this list. My kidney stone doc put me on moduretic, and take a 600 mg calcium tablet with each meal. Hopefully your stones don't fall in this group. We had a test that was about 600 dollars and this was the result of that test. I can tell you that the "breaking up" of stones with ultrasound isn't exactly painless, and that procedure can only be done so many times. Good luck to you and keep the pain pills handy. Myron Stutes

Dan Wilson · 06-17-2010, 12:10 PM

I heard that shifting at 9200 will break up those stones. Or was it took stones to shift at 9200?
Dan

Dave Casey · 06-17-2010, 01:29 PM

I have had 3 stones in the last 20 years. The first one was by far the most painfull, 3 days in the hosp. and passed it. The second one was less painfull and i pushed the water and passed it. The third one i had blasted, it worked and was not bad to get done.

I hate taking any pain meds, i would rather suffer than take that stuff, the pain for the first one was so bad that i lay on the streacher at the hosp. with my eyes closed and curled up and i couldn't wait for them to give me a shot in the *** to stop the pain. OH,,, did I mention the consoling nurse said nicely to me " oh , i understand that this is the closest thing a man can experiance to childbirth" The woman that I have talked to that have had both ,children and kidney stones,tell me they will take childbirth.

RCM426 · 06-17-2010, 02:09 PM

Dean thanks for the call last nght it was good to hear from you and I hope you get better and back to racing soon , that one listing was right 9600 out of the 305 would make items loosen up big time hehehehe chat later Rich

Kenny Wigington · 06-17-2010, 05:54 PM

Wow, Deano ! Glad you are on the road to recovery soon. I had to get one blasted last fall. No fun, with those things !

Daran Summerton · 06-17-2010, 06:50 PM

After the gulf war I was walking across the shop one day and woke up on the shop floor, I was the only one there and crawled on my hands and knees to the phone. Once I arrived the emergency room I was given 5-6 bags IV but the problem was I had a 100% blockage that made my kidney blow up 3 times larger then normal. Morphine was not an option, they shot me with Dilaudid and I instantly was out!!! The ultrasound blaster machine worked in my case. I just wanted to pass that name along so if you can't take it anymore that is the only thing that stopped the madness. Childbirth is not even close I have heard as well. You must drink 1 gal. of water per day for the rest of your life,, I do!!!!!!!!

06-16-2010, 06:52 PM	#1
Dean Oliver Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Stuttgart, AR Posts: 53 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? I had two kidney stones that knocked me for a loop. I passed one in the ER a week ago this past Saturday only to be back in the hospital to have a second one removed the following Monday. After they removed the second one they inserted a stint from my kidney to my bladder, and that thing was uncomfortable to say the least. I had to have five different pain medications including morphine to make the pain go away in the ER, so I guess that tells you that it either hurt really bad or I'm a big sissy. Anyway, I actually feel normal today. Thanks to Alan and others with diet advice for kidney stone people like me. I would like to share this with everyone in case it might help somebody. My doctor said that despite all of the dietary changes suggested by various internet sources that are supposed to help prevent the formation of kidney stones, there are basically two things that have been shown to consistently help patients. He said that for 85% of kidney stone people, if you (1) drink enough water (divide your weight by 2 to determine the number of ounces of water that you should drink per day) and (2) don't add salt to your food, you will never have another stone. Hopefully I'm in that 85%........ Thanks everyone for the calls and the get well wishes. Dean

06-17-2010, 10:13 AM	#2
MYRONARL1119 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: COLUMBUS,OHIO Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? Dean, Your doctor gave you part of the story. Let me tell you about the other possibility for kidney stones. I have had probably 30 in my life time and can only agree that they are very painful, and pain medication is your freind. The other thing that causes stones is something called Oxalate. More than likely most of your favorite foods are high in oxalates, and a low oxalate diet is difficult at best. Some foods high in oxalates are berries, fruit salads,grapes,lemon,rhubarb,beetroot,chard,parsley ,spinach ,and nuts. Also soy products are on this list. My kidney stone doc put me on moduretic, and take a 600 mg calcium tablet with each meal. Hopefully your stones don't fall in this group. We had a test that was about 600 dollars and this was the result of that test. I can tell you that the "breaking up" of stones with ultrasound isn't exactly painless, and that procedure can only be done so many times. Good luck to you and keep the pain pills handy. Myron Stutes

06-17-2010, 12:10 PM	#3
Dan Wilson Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 60 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? I heard that shifting at 9200 will break up those stones. Or was it took stones to shift at 9200? Dan __________________ Dan Wilson, STK3171, K/SA

06-17-2010, 01:29 PM	#4
Dave Casey VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hampden, MA Posts: 1,201 Likes: 233 Liked 774 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? I have had 3 stones in the last 20 years. The first one was by far the most painfull, 3 days in the hosp. and passed it. The second one was less painfull and i pushed the water and passed it. The third one i had blasted, it worked and was not bad to get done. I hate taking any pain meds, i would rather suffer than take that stuff, the pain for the first one was so bad that i lay on the streacher at the hosp. with my eyes closed and curled up and i couldn't wait for them to give me a shot in the *** to stop the pain. OH,,, did I mention the consoling nurse said nicely to me " oh , i understand that this is the closest thing a man can experiance to childbirth" The woman that I have talked to that have had both ,children and kidney stones,tell me they will take childbirth. __________________ Dave Casey 1330 STK

06-17-2010, 02:09 PM	#5
RCM426 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 116 Likes: 66 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? Dean thanks for the call last nght it was good to hear from you and I hope you get better and back to racing soon , that one listing was right 9600 out of the 305 would make items loosen up big time hehehehe chat later Rich

06-17-2010, 05:54 PM	#6
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? Wow, Deano ! Glad you are on the road to recovery soon. I had to get one blasted last fall. No fun, with those things ! __________________ 2894 STK

06-17-2010, 06:50 PM	#7
Daran Summerton Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas nv Posts: 600 Likes: 18 Liked 66 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Dean Oliver ?????? After the gulf war I was walking across the shop one day and woke up on the shop floor, I was the only one there and crawled on my hands and knees to the phone. Once I arrived the emergency room I was given 5-6 bags IV but the problem was I had a 100% blockage that made my kidney blow up 3 times larger then normal. Morphine was not an option, they shot me with Dilaudid and I instantly was out!!! The ultrasound blaster machine worked in my case. I just wanted to pass that name along so if you can't take it anymore that is the only thing that stopped the madness. Childbirth is not even close I have heard as well. You must drink 1 gal. of water per day for the rest of your life,, I do!!!!!!!!