Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA

Bimbo Jones · 04-12-2010, 11:27 AM

It looks like more short sighted Obama mentality to me. Rather than encouraging the tourists dallors these taveling sportman racers will bring to the Nevada economy they think they can generate their revenue shortfall by nailing a few racers on their road system. this is not cool and we should expect more and more of this as the country slips into more and more tighter controls on everything. Just wait until they start putting the screws in the RV'ing crowd if they haven't already. And I thought we were part of the RV'ing crowd????

SSDiv6 · 04-12-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimbo Jones

It looks like more short sighted Obama mentality to me. Rather than encouraging the tourists dallors these taveling sportman racers will bring to the Nevada economy they think they can generate their revenue shortfall by nailing a few racers on their road system. this is not cool and we should expect more and more of this as the country slips into more and more tighter controls on everything. Just wait until they start putting the screws in the RV'ing crowd if they haven't already. And I thought we were part of the RV'ing crowd????

It's probably a Harry Reid agreement so they can pay for the health care reform!!!

Jeff Teuton · 04-12-2010, 11:47 AM

It sounds like they are allowing for 390 in the code. If you are titled in a company name, you are subject to DOT. If you are in a personal name, you are probably ok. You still need to know about 390. If you got a pickup, you probably still need a plate to cover your weight or your total GVW. Never never let them say you are a commercial vehicle. But you can't do that if you are titled in a company name or something that resembles that. Jeff Teuton is ok, Jeff Teuton Racing (just cause it looks good on a title, or on the side of a trailer) gets you in the DOT gate. Hope this helps. 399(f)(3) in the actual exemption you need for this in the DOT manual.

E Snow · 04-12-2010, 01:13 PM

It appears to me that This will severely restrict our racing in this part of the world. (Sourthern Utah) All races generally take us through NV.
With the current economic conditons it makes it very hard to attend races in CA, AZ, NV, ID WA and OR. It just adds one more nail in the
coffin for our racing program.

It would be nice if the NHRA would get involved and get some sort of excemption like they did for the Air Races etc.

Just my thoughts

Bimbo Jones · 04-12-2010, 03:55 PM

It would be nice if the NHRA would get involved and get some sort of excemption like they did for the Air Races etc.

My thoughts also E Snow!

Rather than hammering the racers for waste desposal NHRA should be leading the way to help the racer be as green as possible. Instead they take the route to cover their backsides and add an additional burden to the racer. I thought NHRA was form to provide a safe and racer friendly place to compete? What was I thinking?

Jeff Lee · 04-15-2010, 12:54 PM

I just spoke to a SS racer on his way to Vegas. He had a long talk w/ NVDMV before he hit the road. He was told "if you have ever made money w/ your car or COULD make money w/ your car, it was considered commercial. Furthermore, not only is it .15 per mile, it's $50.00 per day you are in NV using the permit! SS racer told the agent he was traveling to a car show, not a race. Agent informed SS racer there was money in showing cars as agent used to show a roadster and knew the kind of money that could ne MADD and therefore could be considered commercial. SS racer assured agent this was not possible with his car.
Agent went over a lengthy list to which racer responded "no" to all questions. Agent stated if he answered the same to an officer, everything should be OK.
The fine if DPS doesn't buy your story? $500 to $1000 (I believe per day,could be wrong) & possible impound.
NHRA needs to lobby an exemption. We're talkinganother $300+ for a week long race!

FED 387 · 04-15-2010, 01:39 PM

The way I see it is BOTH the NHRA AND Bruton Smith/The Strip as well as the other NHRA sanctioned strips need to contact the proper authorities in Nevada and see if they can work out an exemption or some kind of a fair and equitable solution to the situation. If the Nevada govt people do not want to cooperate then the NHRA and Mr Smith have to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR so that is totaly understood that there will be no more NHRA races in their state until this ruling is rescinded---When they see the financial ramifications that will ensue they just might rethink their logic. Funny how money works isn't it?? comp 387

04-12-2010, 11:27 AM	#1
Bimbo Jones Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA It looks like more short sighted Obama mentality to me. Rather than encouraging the tourists dallors these taveling sportman racers will bring to the Nevada economy they think they can generate their revenue shortfall by nailing a few racers on their road system. this is not cool and we should expect more and more of this as the country slips into more and more tighter controls on everything. Just wait until they start putting the screws in the RV'ing crowd if they haven't already. And I thought we were part of the RV'ing crowd????

04-12-2010, 11:47 AM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA It sounds like they are allowing for 390 in the code. If you are titled in a company name, you are subject to DOT. If you are in a personal name, you are probably ok. You still need to know about 390. If you got a pickup, you probably still need a plate to cover your weight or your total GVW. Never never let them say you are a commercial vehicle. But you can't do that if you are titled in a company name or something that resembles that. Jeff Teuton is ok, Jeff Teuton Racing (just cause it looks good on a title, or on the side of a trailer) gets you in the DOT gate. Hope this helps. 399(f)(3) in the actual exemption you need for this in the DOT manual. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

04-12-2010, 01:13 PM	#4
E Snow Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utah Posts: 9 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA It appears to me that This will severely restrict our racing in this part of the world. (Sourthern Utah) All races generally take us through NV. With the current economic conditons it makes it very hard to attend races in CA, AZ, NV, ID WA and OR. It just adds one more nail in the coffin for our racing program. It would be nice if the NHRA would get involved and get some sort of excemption like they did for the Air Races etc. Just my thoughts

04-12-2010, 03:55 PM	#5
Bimbo Jones Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA It would be nice if the NHRA would get involved and get some sort of excemption like they did for the Air Races etc. My thoughts also E Snow! Rather than hammering the racers for waste desposal NHRA should be leading the way to help the racer be as green as possible. Instead they take the route to cover their backsides and add an additional burden to the racer. I thought NHRA was form to provide a safe and racer friendly place to compete? What was I thinking?

04-15-2010, 12:54 PM	#6
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA I just spoke to a SS racer on his way to Vegas. He had a long talk w/ NVDMV before he hit the road. He was told "if you have ever made money w/ your car or COULD make money w/ your car, it was considered commercial. Furthermore, not only is it .15 per mile, it's $50.00 per day you are in NV using the permit! SS racer told the agent he was traveling to a car show, not a race. Agent informed SS racer there was money in showing cars as agent used to show a roadster and knew the kind of money that could ne MADD and therefore could be considered commercial. SS racer assured agent this was not possible with his car. Agent went over a lengthy list to which racer responded "no" to all questions. Agent stated if he answered the same to an officer, everything should be OK. The fine if DPS doesn't buy your story? $500 to $1000 (I believe per day,could be wrong) & possible impound. NHRA needs to lobby an exemption. We're talkinganother $300+ for a week long race! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-15-2010, 01:39 PM	#7
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,421 Likes: 529 Liked 333 Times in 180 Posts	Re: Nevada Travel Permit Warning On NHRA The way I see it is BOTH the NHRA AND Bruton Smith/The Strip as well as the other NHRA sanctioned strips need to contact the proper authorities in Nevada and see if they can work out an exemption or some kind of a fair and equitable solution to the situation. If the Nevada govt people do not want to cooperate then the NHRA and Mr Smith have to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR so that is totaly understood that there will be no more NHRA races in their state until this ruling is rescinded---When they see the financial ramifications that will ensue they just might rethink their logic. Funny how money works isn't it?? comp 387