Yet another bogu horsepower factor

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Start using all of the eigth mile numbers!

How about doing away with the 1000ft numbers totally just give the 60', and the 1/8 mile times

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by art leong

How about doing away with the 1000ft numbers totally just give the 60', and the 1/8 mile times

Even with just 60' and 660' times, you can interpolate 1/4-mile times, so you will still have people dumping to game the system, while having enough data to race by. You need to fix the *system*, or better yet, just factor everybody now based on years of collected data. See previous posts.

[Charley Downing]

There will always be a way to get around any system that is in place. If you use 1/8 mile times people will lift a 330.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

There will always be a way to get around any system that is in place. If you use 1/8 mile times people will lift a 330.

Hey, didn't Billy say that already.

[Ron Ortiz]

Would all of you people go back and read my post. You all need to get ahold of those five people in that Committee.

They already have all the incrimental times, they have been gathering information for the past year. It has been presented to the Comp Comm already. What are they doing about it, they are ignoring it. Don't you all get it! If you want results put pressure on this Comm.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA do not be stupid, take action

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Would all of you people go back and read my post. You all need to get ahold of those five people in that Committee.

They already have all the incrimental times, they have been gathering information for the past year. It has been presented to the Comp Comm already. What are they doing about it, they are ignoring it. Don't you all get it! If you want results put pressure on this Comm.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA do not be stupid, take action

Ron how should they decide what HP? What criteria? By Compression? By Camshaft? By Carb/Throttle body? Different engines respond to different things.
My camshaft is only .492 lift. And I can run anything I want. Bigger cams have been tried but they don't seem to work. If my motor had .580 lift or so it wouldn't get out of it's own way.
It will take some time but it will work itself out.
The Hemi stocker guys had fits when the street hemi E body got hit a few years ago.
Well back in the "good old days" that motor was 440 hp. NHRA decided that 425 (factory number) was to low So they made it 440 in stock and 480 in superstock. Before a car ever went down the track.
Is this what you want to return to?

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by art leong

Ron how should they decide what HP? What criteria? By Compression? By Camshaft? By Carb/Throttle body? Different engines respond to different things.
My camshaft is only .492 lift. And I can run anything I want. Bigger cams have been tried but they don't seem to work. If my motor had .580 lift or so it wouldn't get out of it's own way.
It will take some time but it will work itself out.
The Hemi stocker guys had fits when the street hemi E body got hit a few years ago.
Well back in the "good old days" that motor was 440 hp. NHRA decided that 425 (factory number) was to low So they made it 440 in stock and 480 in superstock. Before a car ever went down the track.
Is this what you want to return to?

Some very valid points to consider Art. Bigger is always not better in certain engine builds. This whole thread was based on how bogus the 5.7 Hemi was rated. Maybe we should all get back on track since this topic just turned into another, "bash the NHRA" thread. To those who don't like what NHRA is doing, past or present?...Go throw your keg's of tea into the Boston Harbor and have yourselves a party.

Anyways, There are at least 4, maybe 5 DP cars with this particular package. None of which have even hit the 1320 as of yet. Our 5.7 DP is still on the chassis jig and has already been bench raced and factored to death. lol Do I particular like the options on the 5.7 engine package that Mopar gave us? No... Could have made more power with less.