08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S

[Chad Rhodes]

anyone want to stand up and say these cars are good for the sport now? 1.32 under the new index. that would be 1.62 under the old index.

[Jack Matyas]

OK - For once make believe your cup is half full -- tomorrow he will get horsepower added on -- somedays the system does work -- today is one of them ! ! ! ! ! !

BTW , nice 10.99 run by Evan Smith in his "Old School" 5-OH .........he's Avis again .

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

OK - For once make believe your cup is half full -- tomorrow he will get horsepower added on -- somedays the system does work -- today is one of them ! ! ! ! ! !

jack, you have a good point. however how many times will these cars have to get hit to make things fair?

[Jack Matyas]

Chad -- Egos being what they are these CJ drivers will continue to try and be #1 and it might take awhile but it always catches up .........always ! !

[Bruce Noland]

Jack,
The system may catch up to these cars in full "some day." But, Chad is referring to gifts that were given to these cars in first place. Just to say the system has worked and that makes everything OK is not the whole story. These cars should have been fairly factored in the first place. This is a low 9.40's pass in AA. What was it that you said last year?

[Chuck Norton]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

jack, you have a good point. however how many times will these cars have to get hit to make things fair?

If my feeble calculations are close to correct, one more hit like this one will bring the 2008 cars to the brink of extinction in Stock. It appears that this will put them at about 453 horsepower and at a break of 7.14. When they reach 6.99 horsepower per pound, we'll find out how serious NHRA is about leveling the playing field. Of course, there's always the option available to the Competition Committee to hit them with an index penalty instead of a horsepower adjustment the way they have done in the case of the SS/AH cars. Another .15 on the index of A/S would be a piece of cake for the '08 Mustangs.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jack,
The system may catch up to these cars in full "some day." But, Chad is referring to gifts that were given to these cars in first place. Just to say the system has worked and that makes everything OK is not the whole story. Theses cars should have been fairly factored in the first place. This is a low 9.40's pass in AA. What was it that you said last year?

Bruce -- I'll say the same thing this year as I said last -- you must let the system do its job - if we did things your way there would never be any new cars built - you simply can't put HP on because you think they will be great ............On track numbers are the only fair way . BTW, just for the record I agree they have most of us covered but .............well ,lets just say the "horse" ( no pun intended ) is out of the barn so lets deal with it .

[Billy Harper]

maybe time for nhra to go back to having fuel injected classes just my two cents

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Billy Harper

maybe time for nhra to go back to having fuel injected classes just my two cents

I don't think the LS1 cars want any of the CJ's either. maybe a FORCED INDUCTION class

[Bruce Noland]

Jack,
Actually, you had many things to say about this issue. You accused some of us of smoking "something" when we revealed the potential of these cars. You also said there was no way the CJ's could run this fast and seemed very eager to mix it up with us on this issue. Well, you were wrong! And yes nhra should get the horsepower as close as possible before allowing new cars to compete. Don't forget the AHFS is used to remove HP as well. Ask the Mopar guys about the so called NASCAR Hemi. But of course the Challenger is in the same boat with the CJ's. These cars clearly got a pass from nhra. History will not be very kind to those who try to protect this ruse.