08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S - Page 2

Bruce Noland · 03-14-2010, 09:37 AM

Jack,
The system may catch up to these cars in full "some day." But, Chad is referring to gifts that were given to these cars in first place. Just to say the system has worked and that makes everything OK is not the whole story. These cars should have been fairly factored in the first place. This is a low 9.40's pass in AA. What was it that you said last year?

Jack Matyas · 03-14-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jack,
The system may catch up to these cars in full "some day." But, Chad is referring to gifts that were given to these cars in first place. Just to say the system has worked and that makes everything OK is not the whole story. Theses cars should have been fairly factored in the first place. This is a low 9.40's pass in AA. What was it that you said last year?

Bruce -- I'll say the same thing this year as I said last -- you must let the system do its job - if we did things your way there would never be any new cars built - you simply can't put HP on because you think they will be great ............On track numbers are the only fair way . BTW, just for the record I agree they have most of us covered but .............well ,lets just say the "horse" ( no pun intended ) is out of the barn so lets deal with it .

Billy Harper · 03-14-2010, 09:56 AM

maybe time for nhra to go back to having fuel injected classes just my two cents

Chad Rhodes · 03-14-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Harper

maybe time for nhra to go back to having fuel injected classes just my two cents

I don't think the LS1 cars want any of the CJ's either. maybe a FORCED INDUCTION class

Bruce Noland · 03-14-2010, 10:05 AM

Jack,
Actually, you had many things to say about this issue. You accused some of us of smoking "something" when we revealed the potential of these cars. You also said there was no way the CJ's could run this fast and seemed very eager to mix it up with us on this issue. Well, you were wrong! And yes nhra should get the horsepower as close as possible before allowing new cars to compete. Don't forget the AHFS is used to remove HP as well. Ask the Mopar guys about the so called NASCAR Hemi. But of course the Challenger is in the same boat with the CJ's. These cars clearly got a pass from nhra. History will not be very kind to those who try to protect this ruse.

Jack Matyas · 03-14-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jack,
Actually, you had many things to say about this issue. You accused some of us of smoking "something" when we revealed the potential of these cars. You also said there was no way the CJ's could run this fast and seemed very eager to mix it up with us on this issue. Well, you were wrong! And yes nhra should get the horsepower as close as possible before allowing new cars to compete. Don't forget the AHFS is used to remove HP as well. Ask the Mopar guys about the so called NASCAR Hemi. But of course the Challenger is in the same boat with the CJ's. These cars clearly got a pass from nhra. History will not be very kind to those who try to protect this ruse.

Yes Bruce I was wrong ! ! But you can't live in the past -- deal with it .It seems to me you don't agree with the way things are being run - that's your choice -
but the rest of us are still out there trying .

As for getting the HP correct -- these was no way anyone knew - even you -- that they would be this good .And I'm still hopeful that history will be kind to me .. I've tried very hard to contribute in a positive manner .

Jack Matyas · 03-14-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

BTW , nice 10.99 run by Evan Smith in his "Old School" 5-OH .........he's Avis again .

I take it back -- Evan is no longer Avis -- Congrats my friend ! ! ! !

Bruce Noland · 03-14-2010, 12:50 PM

The CJ's have proven our point on this issue. Throw out this run and you still have the same problem. Some say it's OK for nhra not to do it's job in an equitable fashion. Not me. I have written to nhra over the years and usually get no response (like most people), but it is always authentic western gibberish when they do respond. One more thing, many, many racers are unhappy with these new cars being forced down our throats but they are not willing to come out here and deal with the snarks who use cheap shots, nor do they want to be told what to do with their lives or racing programs for that matter. Yes, we are going to deal with it but that does not mean that we have to like it or even shut up about it.

Nitro Joe Jackson · 03-14-2010, 01:16 PM

hold the phone guys he was listed in the wrong class
AA/S now,
Congrad's to Evan being new #1 Q

CBS · 03-14-2010, 01:32 PM

see what you started Joe....lol

03-14-2010, 09:56 AM	#3
Billy Harper Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 277 Likes: 76 Liked 138 Times in 22 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S maybe time for nhra to go back to having fuel injected classes just my two cents __________________ BILLY HARPER

03-14-2010, 10:05 AM	#5
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Jack, Actually, you had many things to say about this issue. You accused some of us of smoking "something" when we revealed the potential of these cars. You also said there was no way the CJ's could run this fast and seemed very eager to mix it up with us on this issue. Well, you were wrong! And yes nhra should get the horsepower as close as possible before allowing new cars to compete. Don't forget the AHFS is used to remove HP as well. Ask the Mopar guys about the so called NASCAR Hemi. But of course the Challenger is in the same boat with the CJ's. These cars clearly got a pass from nhra. History will not be very kind to those who try to protect this ruse. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-14-2010, 12:50 PM	#8
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S The CJ's have proven our point on this issue. Throw out this run and you still have the same problem. Some say it's OK for nhra not to do it's job in an equitable fashion. Not me. I have written to nhra over the years and usually get no response (like most people), but it is always authentic western gibberish when they do respond. One more thing, many, many racers are unhappy with these new cars being forced down our throats but they are not willing to come out here and deal with the snarks who use cheap shots, nor do they want to be told what to do with their lives or racing programs for that matter. Yes, we are going to deal with it but that does not mean that we have to like it or even shut up about it. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 03-14-2010 at 01:19 PM.

03-14-2010, 01:16 PM	#9
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 58 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S hold the phone guys he was listed in the wrong class AA/S now, Congrad's to Evan being new #1 Q __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

03-14-2010, 01:32 PM	#10
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S see what you started Joe....lol

03-14-2010, 09:37 AM	#1
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 08 CJ goes 9.62 in A/S Jack, The system may catch up to these cars in full "some day." But, Chad is referring to gifts that were given to these cars in first place. Just to say the system has worked and that makes everything OK is not the whole story. These cars should have been fairly factored in the first place. This is a low 9.40's pass in AA. What was it that you said last year? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 03-14-2010 at 09:44 AM.