Hazmat fines

[B Aceves]

Originally Posted by Bret Kepner

What makes you think local tracks won't eventually become a target for similar legislation...or worse?

I do not think for one minute think that this is not a enhancement by NHRA to take more money out of our pockets, why? Because the EPA would be enforcing this not NHRA, Can you tell me that a fine paid by a racer is going straight to the EPA, I doubt it.
I will say that if you sign anything when you dispose of your oil to a SafetyClean type company, Do you realize you are responsible for the clean up and fines if something happens in the way of a spillage until it reaches the disposal site!! even if you pay a
removal fee. Besides were we not already paying a fee for disposal? I do remember a increase in track fee's to cover this at least in CA.

[Bill Harris]

Directly from the NHRA Environmental Management Plan.
Quote:
Removal of Waste From Site:
Each team will be required to make necessary provisions for removing any waste generated by it through a licensed vendor (Hazmat/Recycle hauler) designed by the track.
Any arrangements for and/or charges incurred for the removal of solid, recyclable or hazardous waste will be the responsibility of the race team generating the waste, and it will be the responsibility of the race team to contract with the on-site vendor for such disposal.
Unquote.

I ain't no englush majur, but that sez to me that if you generate waste on site, it must be disposed of through the on-site contracted vendor.

I ain't no lawyer neither, but it sure looked to me like all the hooks were in place to obligate the "participant" to dispose of waste oil on site with the contract vendor. You had to sign a document that said you agreed to the NHRA plan in order to complete your registration.

At Gainesville, the package handed out included a "Race Team Setup Form" for the purpose of establishing a contractual relationship with the vendor. The "Race Classifications" included "Street Racer", "Pro", and "Top Fuel". I guess we are street racers.

Being the devil's advocate and looking at the worst case scenario, what Jeff Teuton suggested is still a violation of the Florida statute. If you are transporting used motor oil in a container, it has to have a secondary containment that will accommodate the entire volume plus 10%. Will the Florida environmental cops bust you for a few quarts of dirty oil, probably not, but it is technically a violation anyway. If you had a wreck on the way home and dumped oil all over the place, that might be a different story.

For me, I think I will change my oil at home....

[A100]

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

Directly from the NHRA Environmental Management Plan.
Quote:
Removal of Waste From Site:
Each team will be required to make necessary provisions for removing any waste generated by it through a licensed vendor (Hazmat/Recycle hauler) designed by the track.
Any arrangements for and/or charges incurred for the removal of solid, recyclable or hazardous waste will be the responsibility of the race team generating the waste, and it will be the responsibility of the race team to contract with the on-site vendor for such disposal.
Unquote.

I ain't no englush majur, but that sez to me that if you generate waste on site, it must be disposed of through the on-site contracted vendor.

I ain't no lawyer neither, but it sure looked to me like all the hooks were in place to obligate the "participant" to dispose of waste oil on site with the contract vendor. You had to sign a document that said you agreed to the NHRA plan in order to complete your registration.

At Gainesville, the package handed out included a "Race Team Setup Form" for the purpose of establishing a contractual relationship with the vendor. The "Race Classifications" included "Street Racer", "Pro", and "Top Fuel". I guess we are street racers.

Being the devil's advocate and looking at the worst case scenario, what Jeff Teuton suggested is still a violation of the Florida statute. If you are transporting used motor oil in a container, it has to have a secondary containment that will accommodate the entire volume plus 10%. Will the Florida environmental cops bust you for a few quarts of dirty oil, probably not, but it is technically a violation anyway. If you had a wreck on the way home and dumped oil all over the place, that might be a different story.

For me, I think I will change my oil at home....

So why can't you just put the oil bottles in a cooler?

[Chad Rhodes]

well they have no idea what goes on inside my trailer with the AC on and the doors closed. I've changed a transmission in the trailer, I can change the oil or trans fluid in there.

[63corvette]

Used Oil is NOT hazardous waste until it is tested and declared hazardous waste.
It is recyclable material until a test proves it to be hazardous waste no matter what state you are in. Each state is responsible for the rules in the state delegated to them by the US EPA.
The states use the US EPA rules as a minimum and can add additional rules as deemed to be necessary by the state legislature.
Each person in charge at the time in one of the agencies and on site will try to bully you sometimes but if you have knowledge of the laws you can make them back down when they figure out you really do know the law. A little power or authority in the hands of a bureaucrat is a dangerous thing.
The best thing to do is change the oil other than at the track to avoid issues.
If you have to put it back in the original bottles and put it back in the trailer. Putting it in a container of some type since the seals are broken on the bottles might be a good idea also just for safety and not have a spill which is a whole other discussion.
This could get to be a real messy situation depending on the state agency and how much they like or dislike racing.
Just My 2 Cents

[W J]

Next thing you know, "The Dirty Oil Police" will be knocking on your trailer door with a search warrant to find out where you've got it hidden, and you'll be led away in cuffs in front of your fellow racers.... WJ

[Woodro Josey]

There has to be a better hobby for what few years i have left to live!

[7820]

I wonder what will happen to the racer that blows an engine at the finish line but continues to coast back to his pit??

[Kevin Cradduck]

As with any waste, it is up to the generator (in this case, the racer) to determine whether the material is waste or not. As for me; after removing my expensive synthetic oil after 20 passes in my racecar, I simply transport it back home where it is perfectly acceptable for use in my lawnmower. I'm not transporting hazardous waste; I'm recycling. Al Gore would be proud!

[Woodro Josey]

Kevin, you krack me up,,,lol