Clutchless trans

Adger Smith · 01-13-2010, 04:30 AM

Damn Rich,
Whats the big deal. You kick *** without one... OH! same thing is gettin' you is gettin' me.. Birthdays stacking up?? :~)

Ed Carpenter · 01-13-2010, 09:22 AM

Jeff having to let the clutch out on time is one reason why most guys want to run a manual car. Having something release the clutch pedal other than your foot doesn't do it for me. I got the email and said no to the clutchless. If you want a clutchless car go run comp eliminator. Ed

SuperStockDodge · 01-13-2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild

Jeff having to let the clutch out on time is one reason why most guys want to run a manual car. Having something release the clutch pedal other than your foot doesn't do it for me. I got the email and said no to the clutchless. If you want a clutchless car go run comp eliminator. Ed

Took the words right out of my mouth! I couldn't agree with you more Ed.

Jeff Lee · 01-13-2010, 01:48 PM

NHRA asked for opinions, I presented mine.
You can drive your car as you see fit. I also
mentioned I would not be installing a clutchless
but it could be an option to others.
But if you read my letter & didn't freeze on one
aspect, you may have noticed some of it
was geared to auto racers being reluctant
to switch to manual trans for a variety of
reasons.
Now maybe the real story is both of you
would rather not see more stick cars and
the increase in competition?

Ed Carpenter · 01-13-2010, 02:31 PM

I wish there were 20 more SS/H cars in D4. It would be alot more fun. I don't race enough yet to talk trash. I'm not afraid of you or anybody else if that's what you mean. I'm not the fastest and I know that. You need to worry about Tony Fillipone, Bob Earlywine, Danny Coffman etc. Just having fun with ya. Ed

69ss/rs · 01-13-2010, 07:13 PM

I have to say that if NHRA where to allow clutchless trans, I would switch from my automatic. Nothing sounds better than standing at the big end, and hearing a stick car coming down the track. I have been told that with the mods that the current trans have going to a clutchless isn't really that much different. But I'm to much of a coward to try it now; having only driven automatics all my racing life.

Ed Carpenter · 01-13-2010, 08:02 PM

69ss/rs just do it!!!!

SuperStockDodge · 01-13-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

NHRA asked for opinions, I presented mine.
You can drive your car as you see fit. I also
mentioned I would not be installing a clutchless
but it could be an option to others.
But if you read my letter & didn't freeze on one
aspect, you may have noticed some of it
was geared to auto racers being reluctant
to switch to manual trans for a variety of
reasons.
Now maybe the real story is both of you
would rather not see more stick cars and
the increase in competition?

"Opinions Vary" that is what Patrick Swayze said in the movie "Roadhouse" The more stick cars the better!!! Let the slush pump cars have all the "driver aided" BS on their cars.

Remember when manual meant manual? At Least i can say I still do. Real Race Cars Have 3 Pedals, always have been-always will be...

charlie westcott · 01-14-2010, 07:58 AM

I think if they allowed clutchless, some auto guys would switch. I have at least one hemi customer that I know would. One thing that I read on here was that they wont stay in gear when you let off the gas. They stay in high gear (the jericos do at least) because the slider has flats on the coast side instead of ramps. I am in favor of it for a couple reasons, it gets the spike out of the rpm between gears (hard on valves) and it makes the car easier to shift. Its not as easy to pull a hemi out of gear as a GT/E car. I voted yes twice for my dad and I. I havent heard anything yet. The poll closed last friday.
cw

Stick Racing · 01-13-2010, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild

Jeff having to let the clutch out on time is one reason why most guys want to run a manual car. Having something release the clutch pedal other than your foot doesn't do it for me. I got the email and said no to the clutchless. If you want a clutchless car go run comp eliminator. Ed

Ed,
Great minds think alike. My reply was the same- almost word for word.

Jeff,
If you can get the electro-magnet T/O bearing passed for the guys that can't move their left foot, then I'll lobby to get a photocell to read the tree. That will 'level the playing field' for all the guys that can't cut a light.

I always thought the sport of racing was the challenge of 'driving' the car-not just going along for the ride.

___________________________

Andy Stone 1102 A/S 1112 SS/C

01-13-2010, 04:30 AM	#1
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans Damn Rich, Whats the big deal. You kick *** without one... OH! same thing is gettin' you is gettin' me.. Birthdays stacking up?? :~) __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

01-13-2010, 09:22 AM	#2
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans Jeff having to let the clutch out on time is one reason why most guys want to run a manual car. Having something release the clutch pedal other than your foot doesn't do it for me. I got the email and said no to the clutchless. If you want a clutchless car go run comp eliminator. Ed __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

01-13-2010, 01:48 PM	#4
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans NHRA asked for opinions, I presented mine. You can drive your car as you see fit. I also mentioned I would not be installing a clutchless but it could be an option to others. But if you read my letter & didn't freeze on one aspect, you may have noticed some of it was geared to auto racers being reluctant to switch to manual trans for a variety of reasons. Now maybe the real story is both of you would rather not see more stick cars and the increase in competition? __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

01-13-2010, 02:31 PM	#5
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans I wish there were 20 more SS/H cars in D4. It would be alot more fun. I don't race enough yet to talk trash. I'm not afraid of you or anybody else if that's what you mean. I'm not the fastest and I know that. You need to worry about Tony Fillipone, Bob Earlywine, Danny Coffman etc. Just having fun with ya. Ed __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

01-13-2010, 07:13 PM	#6
69ss/rs Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 82 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans I have to say that if NHRA where to allow clutchless trans, I would switch from my automatic. Nothing sounds better than standing at the big end, and hearing a stick car coming down the track. I have been told that with the mods that the current trans have going to a clutchless isn't really that much different. But I'm to much of a coward to try it now; having only driven automatics all my racing life.

01-13-2010, 08:02 PM	#7
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans 69ss/rs just do it!!!! __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

01-14-2010, 07:58 AM	#9
charlie westcott Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 216 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Clutchless trans I think if they allowed clutchless, some auto guys would switch. I have at least one hemi customer that I know would. One thing that I read on here was that they wont stay in gear when you let off the gas. They stay in high gear (the jericos do at least) because the slider has flats on the coast side instead of ramps. I am in favor of it for a couple reasons, it gets the spike out of the rpm between gears (hard on valves) and it makes the car easier to shift. Its not as easy to pull a hemi out of gear as a GT/E car. I voted yes twice for my dad and I. I havent heard anything yet. The poll closed last friday. cw