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Old 12-20-2009, 09:59 AM   #61
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Terry: That's really not a bad idea! Buy the end of 2010, even with the new index, the Big Engine Mustangs, convertibles included, and the Big Engine Challengers should all be AA Stockers or SuperStock. (as they should be) It's going to be interesting to see how the "purpose" built cars with the smaller engine combos figure into the skeem of things!!!!!! I can hear the whinning now!!! Maybe Stock Eliminator (all classes) will be Mustangs and Challengers....Now that would be fun to watch! ... Spec Stock Eliminator ...The Cars of the future !!! That's when I quit! JB.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:17 AM   #62
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Terry: That's really not a bad idea! Buy the end of 2010, even with the new index, the Big Engine Mustangs, convertibles included, and the Big Engine Challengers should all be AA Stockers or SuperStock. (as they should be) It's going to be interesting to see how the "purpose" built cars with the smaller engine combos figure into the skeem of things!!!!!! I can hear the whinning now!!! Maybe Stock Eliminator (all classes) will be Mustangs and Challengers....Now that would be fun to watch! ... Spec Stock Eliminator ...The Cars of the future !!! That's when I quit! JB.
Jim, look at it from a Ford fans view over the last 20 years or more what % of the field has been GM, NHRA has been pro GM for ever, maybe they are seeing this now and welcome some new blood in the sport. Just think for a sec. what if it was TOYOTA?
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:21 AM   #63
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Stand at the entry gate the next time your local track has a Test and Tune nite. I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't see any 40+ year old Camaros, Belvederes, or Mustangs coming through. The young crop of racers for the most part are not into old cars with distributors and carburetors. The latest cars with the low hp ratings will help generate interest in the new cars, get them built, and get them on the track for all the young racers, (and kids) at the track to see, touch, taste, and smell. Don't get me wrong, my car as well is not competitive against the low rated newer stuff, but what else is going to get these youngsters out of their Hondas and Subarus and into Detroit iron?
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:39 AM   #64
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Stand at the entry gate the next time your local track has a Test and Tune nite. I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't see any 40+ year old Camaros, Belvederes, or Mustangs coming through. The young crop of racers for the most part are not into old cars with distributors and carburetors. The latest cars with the low hp ratings will help generate interest in the new cars, get them built, and get them on the track for all the young racers, (and kids) at the track to see, touch, taste, and smell. Don't get me wrong, my car as well is not competitive against the low rated newer stuff, but what else is going to get these youngsters out of their Hondas and Subarus and into Detroit iron?
Like I posted in the other thread where you had a similar post, before you edited it, these $50K to $100K new cars aren't going to do it. The kids you're talking about do not have the money, the time, or the interest. We sell parts and services to them every day. They're not interested in class racing with all of the rules, all of the effort, and all of the expense. If they did want to run Stock or Super Stock, and they didn't want old iron, they'd be scarfing up all those LSx F bodies and building them, or the Mustangs, or the ones with money would get Corvettes. But they aren't. Because they don't want to spend the money, the time, or the effort, and they don't like all the rules. I hear it every day when we open the doors.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:55 AM   #65
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Like I posted in the other thread where you had a similar post, before you edited it, these $50K to $100K new cars aren't going to do it. The kids you're talking about do not have the money, the time, or the interest. We sell parts and services to them every day. They're not interested in class racing with all of the rules, all of the effort, and all of the expense. If they did want to run Stock or Super Stock, and they didn't want old iron, they'd be scarfing up all those LSx F bodies and building them, or the Mustangs, or the ones with money would get Corvettes. But they aren't. Because they don't want to spend the money, the time, or the effort, and they don't like all the rules. I hear it every day when we open the doors.
I posted on the wrong thread before, so I posted here. These kids are already going to the drag strip every week, might as well put something on the track from Detroit for them to see. The kids around here (Charlotte) spend a ton of money (or their parents') on their imports. So where do you think the next breed of S/SS racer is coming from?
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I posted on the wrong thread before, so I posted here. These kids are already going to the drag strip every week, might as well put something on the track from Detroit for them to see. The kids around here (Charlotte) spend a ton of money (or their parents') on their imports. So where do you think the next breed of S/SS racer is coming from?
I do not claim to know where the next generation is going to come from. I just know what those kids will tell you about NHRA (or even IHRA) class racing. They have no interest. And it isn't the cars that don't interest them. It is the rules, the format, and the structure. They like the "adrenaline drags" and all of that. They like nitrous, they like big cams, they like adding a supercharger to a normally aspirated car. They do not like RULES, they certainly do not like the idea of thrashing on the car, especially not teardown.
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i do not claim to know where the next generation is going to come from. I just know what those kids will tell you about nhra (or even ihra) class racing. They have no interest. And it isn't the cars that don't interest them. It is the rules, the format, and the structure. They like the "adrenaline drags" and all of that. They like nitrous, they like big cams, they like adding a supercharger to a normally aspirated car. They do not like rules, they certainly do not like the idea of thrashing on the car, especially not teardown.
new class = " imports all out "
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There was a pretty good indoor car show in Rosemont,IL a few weeks ago.I went there on a Saturday night and was surprised that there weren't that many people there.Hardly anyone under 40.
I really don't think that today's generation,for the most part,is in to fast cars.If they were,how many can really afford some of the things at the show that were on display,like this?


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Old 12-20-2009, 12:22 PM   #69
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Stand at the entry gate the next time your local track has a Test and Tune nite. I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't see any 40+ year old Camaros, Belvederes, or Mustangs coming through. The young crop of racers for the most part are not into old cars with distributors and carburetors. The latest cars with the low hp ratings will help generate interest in the new cars, get them built, and get them on the track for all the young racers, (and kids) at the track to see, touch, taste, and smell. Don't get me wrong, my car as well is not competitive against the low rated newer stuff, but what else is going to get these youngsters out of their Hondas and Subarus and into Detroit iron?
At the Atlanta national event Jimmy Ronzello was pitted about 5 rigs down from me.
There were 2 or 3 very nice looking older stockers or superstreet cars between us.
Well there was a crowd of people by Jimmy's car just about all the time. And there were a lot more people coming over to look at my car than any of the cars between us. I can't tell you how many people copme up to me and say I've got a Neon or my girlfriend drives one etc.
The nostalgic cars are not going to draw the newcomers. Why should they
We look at a fast A/SA car it goes in the nines. Well a lot of the "kids" out there can go just as quick and drive their cars to the track..
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There was a pretty good indoor car show in Rosemont,IL a few weeks ago.I went there on a Saturday night and was surprised that there weren't that many people there.Hardly anyone under 40.
I really don't think that today's generation,for the most part,is in to fast cars.If they were,how many can really afford some of the things at the show that were on display,like this?


http://www.nickeychicago.net/vehicle.php?id=251
A lot of "kids" today can afford more than you think.
When I was a "kid" you could not wait to get out on your own.
Now "kids" live at home, and mommy and daddy don't take a penny of their hard earned money.
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