Black Tuesday?

Jimi B · 12-17-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by drooze

Thats why I dont watch it anymore, there was a time when ANYONE could run Nascar or Indy.....those days are gone, Drag Racing is one of the few sports a REAL "Dark Horse" can make a mark.

I agree. Especially these days. With the lack of sponsorship out there, some of the big guys arent making it, and some of the independently wealthy guys that have held on to there loot can get in there and do some damage. I know cubic dollars are an enemy in this thread, but you cant be mad at people for having money. It still amazes me every time I see some sportsman racer I have never even heard of qualifying in any of the pro classes.

wagonboy · 12-17-2009, 02:14 AM

Michael Beard for president. Jody as vice pres. I am new on here, and new to stock. I have been racing for over 15 years and have wanted a stocker for forever and a day. I finally have one, it does not run under yet,but I am working on it, and it will, even if the index drops.

Here is what I gather from reading all this.

If you are not fast but can drive your *** off, the go fast guys don't like it.

Not all the fast guys/gals feel this way, but why not encourage participation. Who cares how much effort it takes to get at or under the index now, it still takes a bit of work and money even to get .2 under. There are people willing to jump in, but how "hard" do you want to make it. Get car counts up and s/ss healthy, then tweak the rules.

If I had to get 1 second under for index, I would work until I was there, of course I would be 89 years old, senile, wearing a diaper and not racing. I don't see how prolonging the ability for people to get started in the class can benefit the class. Maybe it will keep the prestige, but what is prestigious about a dying class. How prestigious will it be when it is gone ?

Nice to meet all of you.

Ryan Smith - 723R

GTX JOHN · 12-17-2009, 04:23 AM

Good post and spot on Wagon Boy!!! We run an old Dodge Pickup and an old Wagon and I think we have as much fun as anybody with their big dollar stuff!!!

Curt Rees · 12-17-2009, 06:59 AM

Ryan Smith for President, 2012.

#5457

Curt Rees

Dale Shannon · 12-17-2009, 09:22 AM

wagon boy, you say you havebeen racing for 15yrs? I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.Times have changed over the years, just maybe everybody can't run stock and super stock anymore.

442OLDS · 12-17-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.

Which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

X-TECH MAN · 12-17-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 442olds

which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

corvette

Bobby DiDomenico · 12-17-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

The one that doesn't come from the factory with antifreeze in it?

art leong · 12-17-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

Which car would be the best to rent in order to do this?

In 1988 Chrysler sold 500 Shadow CSX turbo car complete with 5 speed manual tranny. To Thrifty rent a car.
Every 1988 Shadow CSX started life as a rental car. And they could go.

That is what got me back to racing NHRA.

Michael Beard · 12-17-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

wagon boy, you say you havebeen racing for 15yrs? I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.Times have changed over the years, just maybe everybody can't run stock and super stock anymore.

1) H*ll, anybody can buy a Cobra Jet. Let's move the indexes 1.25.

2) Maybe he WANTS to build the car he chose and is enjoying working on it.
3) I think the standard Cobalt is a great candidate for Stock too, but not everybody wants to build or race a FWD. And if there are other rentals that will run under the index then hummmm... maybe they're not factored right!

12-17-2009, 02:14 AM	#2
wagonboy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 54 Likes: 7 Liked 26 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Michael Beard for president. Jody as vice pres. I am new on here, and new to stock. I have been racing for over 15 years and have wanted a stocker for forever and a day. I finally have one, it does not run under yet,but I am working on it, and it will, even if the index drops. Here is what I gather from reading all this. If you are not fast but can drive your *** off, the go fast guys don't like it. Not all the fast guys/gals feel this way, but why not encourage participation. Who cares how much effort it takes to get at or under the index now, it still takes a bit of work and money even to get .2 under. There are people willing to jump in, but how "hard" do you want to make it. Get car counts up and s/ss healthy, then tweak the rules. If I had to get 1 second under for index, I would work until I was there, of course I would be 89 years old, senile, wearing a diaper and not racing. I don't see how prolonging the ability for people to get started in the class can benefit the class. Maybe it will keep the prestige, but what is prestigious about a dying class. How prestigious will it be when it is gone ? Nice to meet all of you. Ryan Smith - 723R

12-17-2009, 04:23 AM	#3
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,731 Likes: 2,795 Liked 2,471 Times in 696 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Good post and spot on Wagon Boy!!! We run an old Dodge Pickup and an old Wagon and I think we have as much fun as anybody with their big dollar stuff!!!

12-17-2009, 06:59 AM	#4
Curt Rees Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ft. Pierre, SD Posts: 355 Likes: 405 Liked 236 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? Ryan Smith for President, 2012. #5457 Curt Rees __________________ Curt Rees 5457 SS

12-17-2009, 09:22 AM	#5
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Black Tuesday? wagon boy, you say you havebeen racing for 15yrs? I would love to know what kind of car someone could pick to run in stock and not run the index? Hell you can go to enterprize and rent a car that will run under.Times have changed over the years, just maybe everybody can't run stock and super stock anymore.