Hood Scoops to Comp

Jim Storms · 12-09-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

Jim Storms, so what about the GT cars. When did they build a rear wheel drive Escort or Cobalt or Avenger or G5 ? When was a V-8 available in these cars? Careful what you wish for......Joe We need to face it FWD conversion cars changed the complexion of S/S for better or worse, I personally like them. Without some of these new cars and classes S/S would be pretty slim on car counts. IMO

You are exactly correct!!! That is why if you knew me at all ???? you would see that i now have a 70 Challenger!!!!. GT cars do not have hood scoops...thank you very much..

buzzinhalfdozen · 12-09-2009, 07:39 PM

Jim, you're welcome. My point is I;m unsure why some think just because a S/S car has a hood scoop it's somehow less of a S/S car. Is it just the scoop? Is it the supposed big MPH? None of these arguments hold water. The big MPH, heck my buddy Tony Depillo nearly spins me around with his SS/B Honkin Hemi, of course it does have a "factory" hood scoop. I think we can all agree we will NEVER all agree. You're right I don't know you and we disagree on some things .... but I'd be happy to meet you if the oppritunity ever comes up.Joe

Jim Storms · 12-09-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

Jim, you're welcome. My point is I;m unsure why some think just because a S/S car has a hood scoop it's somehow less of a S/S car. Is it just the scoop? Is it the supposed big MPH? None of these arguments hold water. The big MPH, heck my buddy Tony Depillo nearly spins me around with his SS/B Honkin Hemi, of course it does have a "factory" hood scoop. I think we can all agree we will NEVER all agree. You're right I don't know you and we disagree on some things .... but I'd be happy to meet you if the oppritunity ever comes up.Joe

As Worner said!! most of the cars with scoops are comp cars... or at least they have comp motors hows that...its just the easy way out of a teardown....It realy don't matter to me anyway it's all a bracket race after we all qualify anyway write?

jimi · 12-09-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Storms

As Worner said!! most of the cars with scoops are comp cars... or at least they have comp motors hows that...its just the easy way out of a teardown....It realy don't matter to me anyway it's all a bracket race after we all qualify anyway write?

that is exactly correct! WINNER "the easy way out of tear down" you guys are starting to get it, that is why i have a modified car less nhra enhancement to deal with.... no pouring heads, cc's to deal with, compression ratio to worry about , valve sizes etc. but yet i still get to run the class i love.. oh by the way the modified stuff does not cost anymore and in some instances less than conventional s/s engines.

Jim Storms · 12-09-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimi

that is exactly correct! WINNER "the easy way out of tear down" you guys are starting to get it, that is why i have a modified car less nhra enhancement to deal with.... no pouring heads, cc's to deal with, compression ratio to worry about , valve sizes etc. but yet i still get to run the class i love.. oh by the way the modified stuff does not cost anymore and in some instances less than conventional s/s engines.

Im not against any combo here!. everyone has there preference in the brand or type of engine combo they choose or like to run..but the whole point was!! HOOD SCOOPS???.keep the modified classes take the hood scoops off!!! if im not mistaken here isn't that what superstock & stock are based on when it comes down to it!!! whos legal and who's not?? maybe we should have modified cars in stock as well... ???

jimi · 12-09-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Storms

Im not against any combo here!. everyone has there preference in the brand or type of engine combo they choose or like to run..but the whole point was!! HOOD SCOOPS???.keep the modified classes take the hood scoops off!!! if im not mistaken here isn't that what superstock & stock are based on when it comes down to it!!! whos legal and who's not?? maybe we should have modified cars in stock as well... ???

then what do you do about factory s/s cars with hood scoops? hey im for it i hate the scoop on my car, i have been plotting out a big cowl bulge hood to fit over the carb and intake.

Jim Storms · 12-09-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimi

then what do you do about factory s/s cars with hood scoops? hey im for it i hate the scoop on my car, i have been plotting out a big cowl bulge hood to fit over the carb and intake.

That is what my orginal post was!!! if it was not factory,,, then it shouldn't be there.....

X-TECH MAN · 12-10-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Storms

Im not against any combo here!. everyone has there preference in the brand or type of engine combo they choose or like to run..but the whole point was!! HOOD SCOOPS???.keep the modified classes take the hood scoops off!!! if im not mistaken here isn't that what superstock & stock are based on when it comes down to it!!! whos legal and who's not?? maybe we should have modified cars in stock as well... ???

Change the intake manifold rules and make them keep the carbs UNDER the OEM factory type hoods. They can be lite wt. fiberglass or whatever but make them look stock. Let them use 8 each 4500 dominators or a blower if they want but keep it all under the stock appearing hoods. Those tall bulged hood scoops look like s##t.

Michael Lyons · 12-10-2009, 07:20 AM

scoop or no scoop, you guys will still be in the trailer, early! And when the scoops are gone, you'll find something else to b*tch about.. most good S/S engines are so heavily modified they're hardly "OEM" anymore. Heads got a half inch of epoxy and oval ports, aftermarket steel rods and cranks, forged pistons, etc etc.. put a sheet metal intake and an air pump on em and its the same engine. Sorry you have to teardown, my heart bleeds for ya..

buzzinhalfdozen · 12-10-2009, 08:24 AM

283SS, I as I'm sure many here don't appreciate being called lazy. I'd doubt you could get 2 people who know me to say such a thing. What do you do for a living ? Pilot a desk I'd guess. I work plenty hard on my stuff as do most of the racers I know. trying to "get out of tear down" is not my priority, racing within my means with the stuff I've got to work with, that's what I'm about. Last year was my first year running NHRA after running IHRA for years. All of the racers we met this year were very freindly and really good people to be around. I really hate to think that they were secretly cursing me and my car. Maybe if I lower my engine enough I can put on a flat hood , oil pan may scrape a bit but would that make you feel better? Joe

12-09-2009, 07:39 PM	#2
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Hood Scoops to Comp Jim, you're welcome. My point is I;m unsure why some think just because a S/S car has a hood scoop it's somehow less of a S/S car. Is it just the scoop? Is it the supposed big MPH? None of these arguments hold water. The big MPH, heck my buddy Tony Depillo nearly spins me around with his SS/B Honkin Hemi, of course it does have a "factory" hood scoop. I think we can all agree we will NEVER all agree. You're right I don't know you and we disagree on some things .... but I'd be happy to meet you if the oppritunity ever comes up.Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117

12-10-2009, 07:20 AM	#9
Michael Lyons Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Garden City, MI Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hood Scoops to Comp scoop or no scoop, you guys will still be in the trailer, early! And when the scoops are gone, you'll find something else to b*tch about.. most good S/S engines are so heavily modified they're hardly "OEM" anymore. Heads got a half inch of epoxy and oval ports, aftermarket steel rods and cranks, forged pistons, etc etc.. put a sheet metal intake and an air pump on em and its the same engine. Sorry you have to teardown, my heart bleeds for ya..

12-10-2009, 08:24 AM	#10
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Hood Scoops to Comp 283SS, I as I'm sure many here don't appreciate being called lazy. I'd doubt you could get 2 people who know me to say such a thing. What do you do for a living ? Pilot a desk I'd guess. I work plenty hard on my stuff as do most of the racers I know. trying to "get out of tear down" is not my priority, racing within my means with the stuff I've got to work with, that's what I'm about. Last year was my first year running NHRA after running IHRA for years. All of the racers we met this year were very freindly and really good people to be around. I really hate to think that they were secretly cursing me and my car. Maybe if I lower my engine enough I can put on a flat hood , oil pan may scrape a bit but would that make you feel better? Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117