my opinion

Jeff Lee · 12-06-2009, 10:39 PM

What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I have yet to witness less than adequate warning to get your car to the lanes.
First car does a burnout and I would be roping off the lanes if it were my call.

Dave Ficacci · 12-06-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I have yet to witness less than adequate warning to get your car to the lanes.
First car does a burnout and I would be roping off the lanes if it were my call.

See above

Jeff Lee · 12-06-2009, 11:20 PM

It's up to the lane director and he may bite one day.

Ed Fernandez · 12-06-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I have yet to witness less than adequate warning to get your car to the lanes.
First car does a burnout and I would be roping off the lanes if it were my call.

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Anthem, Arizona
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What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

Boy we're really splitting hairs now.I know some that can't race their way out of a paper bag that have nice cushy motorhomes with (gasp) air conditioning.The guys who win don't
all wait till the very end,at least here in Div 1.

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I'm not exactly a heavy hitter but I do like to get to the lanes after at least 20-25 pairs go down and try to evaluate as well as I can what the conditions are.

You seem to be wandering into the "Let's see how I can tilt the table" syndrome.And as
mentioned numerous times you haven't gone down the track in how long?That being said you do have the right to your opinion though it doesn't seem to carry much weight.
I hope you do get the car out next year,we do need some more AMC's out there.

Jeff Lee · 12-07-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

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What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

Boy we're really splitting hairs now.I know some that can't race their way out of a paper bag that have nice cushy motorhomes with (gasp) air conditioning.The guys who win don't
all wait till the very end,at least here in Div 1.

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I'm not exactly a heavy hitter but I do like to get to the lanes after at least 20-25 pairs go down and try to evaluate as well as I can what the conditions are.

[I] You seem to be wandering into the "Let's see how I can tilt the table" syndrome.And as
mentioned numerous times you haven't gone down the track in how long?That being said you do have the right to your opinion though it doesn't seem to carry much weight.
I hope you do get the car out next year,we do need some more AMC's out there[/I].

My "tilt the table" is to show an equitable way for all. All except the laggards that is.
And your right, I am entitled to my opinion. The fact I have not been on the track in a class car in nearly two years has no bearing on my ability to not only form, but offer an opinion. Does it carry any weight? I don't know, how does one formulate that equation? Is my opinion any more or less "weight worthy" than yours? Probably not, making both you and I equal in such regard. I can accept zero and would give as much to you. And like Don Kennedy said pages back, when one has nothing to offer, they naturally turn to the insults.
And hopefully I will get back on the track this next season. Progress is slow but being done right. Some relish in having the most trips down the track, I relish in taking the time to do it right. It is a job I will be proud of and will be a level of sophistication not seen on an AMC drag car.
Now back to the subject, please.

Dinsdale · 12-06-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I have yet to witness less than adequate warning to get your car to the lanes.
First car does a burnout and I would be roping off the lanes if it were my call.

I'm with Jeff on this one... On a lesser scale at our track but I have friends who run the lanes. It's always the same people who think they don't have to show up in time or be prepared to race once they get there. This practice is discourteous to the racer you are paired with, holds up the program and causes a huge jamb in the lanes while the track official is trying to locate straglers. It may help your race program to be last up but someone has to be first and there is no reason for everyone to not fall in line unless you have a mechanical problem.

Mike Carr · 12-07-2009, 12:11 AM

I should clarify the wording in my post from page 10. I don't personally have a problem with anyone and when they show up to the lanes. Unless it was a problem in regards to slowing the running of the event. If it were holding up the show, whether a round or a pair in that round, then the rule could be implemented. Especially if there is inclimate weather approaching. I prefer going early most of the time (at least in qualifying), but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Hey Don, no response to my earlier thread? Owned?

RPinoski1 · 12-07-2009, 12:32 AM

Is it possible the autostart system caused the rule changes to courtesy staging and no deep staging?

Seems to me the elimination of deep staging and the requirement of courtesy staging might have actually hurt the "Touring Pros" or more Savvy racers. Knowing where you are in the staging beams every time and staging in the same place would be more of an advantage than it is now.

treessavoy · 12-08-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what?

I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc.

I have yet to witness less than adequate warning to get your car to the lanes.
First car does a burnout and I would be roping off the lanes if it were my call.

Jeff,

Over the years I have raced at tracks that did just that. After the third call the staging lanes were roped off with a track member there to make sure no one would try and sneak into the lanes.

The only problem would be giving the last couple of cars from the previous run having enough time to cool down.

If this is a "real" problem then post the ladders for every round except time trials, then everybody would race at a time dictated by the track.

JimR

12-06-2009, 10:39 PM	#1
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: my opinion What is it about "Stock to the lanes...last call" that you don't understand or think you are above? Is that another hour in the air conditioned RV you deserve or what? I guess I failed to mention all the laggards who have the advantage of analyzing the cars going down the track for an hour or so in search of changing weather conditions, traction issues, etc. I have yet to witness less than adequate warning to get your car to the lanes. First car does a burnout and I would be roping off the lanes if it were my call. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

12-06-2009, 11:20 PM	#3
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: my opinion It's up to the lane director and he may bite one day. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

12-07-2009, 12:11 AM	#7
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: my opinion I should clarify the wording in my post from page 10. I don't personally have a problem with anyone and when they show up to the lanes. Unless it was a problem in regards to slowing the running of the event. If it were holding up the show, whether a round or a pair in that round, then the rule could be implemented. Especially if there is inclimate weather approaching. I prefer going early most of the time (at least in qualifying), but hey, whatever floats your boat. Hey Don, no response to my earlier thread? Owned? __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

12-07-2009, 12:32 AM	#8
RPinoski1 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PLACERVILLE, CA Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: my opinion Is it possible the autostart system caused the rule changes to courtesy staging and no deep staging? Seems to me the elimination of deep staging and the requirement of courtesy staging might have actually hurt the "Touring Pros" or more Savvy racers. Knowing where you are in the staging beams every time and staging in the same place would be more of an advantage than it is now.