HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock
Register Photo Gallery FAQ Community Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-16-2009, 02:26 PM   #41
Ed Wright
Veteran Member
 
Ed Wright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 8,132
Likes: 896
Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Beard View Post
Hasn't NHRA been using VP Lane Choice ever since VP became their official fuel, etc.?
Michael, I don't think so. We see drums with JP1 labels sitting around at Tulsa and other tracks, and I asked which they are, VHT or VP? I was told it is VHT, and that they just changed the name. I believe HRP tried VP for a while and it really sucked. Last time we went there there were JP1 drums everywhere. HRP used to be one of the best hooking tracks in Div 4, but not so much now. Tulsa, Ennis and Memphis were best this year for me.
__________________
Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA
Ed Wright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 05:50 PM   #42
RPinoski1
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: PLACERVILLE, CA
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

VP has or had instructions on how to apply their compounds......but I was just looking over their web site and can't find it. If someone can find it maybe this will shed some light as to why the traction problems...
RPinoski1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 09:36 PM   #43
Michael Beard
VIP Member
 
Michael Beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 4,060
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

Tulsa only recently switched to NHRA.

PJ-1 is VHT.
__________________
Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS
Michael Beard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2009, 09:43 PM   #44
Kent Hanley
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 130
Likes: 149
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

Byron,
It sure sounds like it was the same problem we had at Atco on the Thursday test sesion prior to the points race? If so, it was the VP traction compound that Joe tried . He was able to fix the problem after discovierng it was the traction compound .

Kent
Kent Hanley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 07:36 AM   #45
keith ohanesian
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Talking Re: Bad track at Pomona

Ed have you seen Byron? You won't be having a nice day. How are the deer doing? Are they getting ready for the upcoming holiday?
__________________
No prep is king
keith ohanesian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 10:32 AM   #46
Ed Wright
Veteran Member
 
Ed Wright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 8,132
Likes: 896
Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Beard View Post
Tulsa only recently switched to NHRA.

PJ-1 is VHT.
PJ-1.JP-1, whatever. I know Tulsa recently changed to NHRA, That is where I have lived for the last 66 years.

HRP (Baytown/Houston), Ennis, Memphis, Noble OK, all NHRA, all using VHT from all the PJ-1 drums sitting around. Several of my Houston customers told me early this past summer that HRP had quit hooking like it always used to, and that they had changed to VP Track Bite. They later told me they had changed back to VHT. Still, at the Div races it still wasn't what it used to be. I often wondered this summer if VHT had changed, or the tracks cut back on it to save money. I found at Memphis I had been fighting a junk set of tires, so can't really say about some of the starting lines. Even on the old tires Ennis & Tulsa have been very good.
__________________
Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA
Ed Wright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 12:02 PM   #47
Michael Lyons
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Garden City, MI
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

No oil down fines, no glue(maybe no good glue), no track prep. Really didn't think they were gonna make that back up outta their pocket did ya?

Hate to say it but NHRA needs to bring back some kind of reasonable fines for the pro's. They didn't have to pay anything to get in, they can afford to pay to keep the track in shape.. benefits them as much as anyone.
Michael Lyons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 01:51 PM   #48
Michael Beard
VIP Member
 
Michael Beard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 4,060
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

The reason I mentioned Tulsa just recently switched is because a track doesn't necessarily use a particular compound based on the sanctioning body, unless it is specifically at a National event. Even for Divisional races, I'm not so sure that the sanctioning bodies don't just use whatever the track uses on a weekly basis.

I'm curious if there is any effect on the surface to using one brand all year, and then spraying something different on it for 1-2 races. You wouldn't think so, since they're scraping the rubber, but.... -=shrug=-

Pageland Dragway in South Carolina is a tiny little track with the best-kept secret. They did a lot of experimenting the last few years with their own homebrew traction compound, and when they hit on it, buddy you could tell! Best 60' times there (with "real" 60' clocks), and the car yanks the wheels higher there than anywhere else. Don't know what they did exactly, but I keep telling them to bottle the stuff and sell it!
__________________
Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS
Michael Beard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 03:38 PM   #49
Leif Andersson
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sweden
Posts: 15
Likes: 20
Liked 5 Times in 1 Post
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

Moore reading on the subject. Scroll to top of page.
http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...3312#262103312

Last edited by Leif Andersson; 11-17-2009 at 03:42 PM.
Leif Andersson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 04:18 PM   #50
Ed Wright
Veteran Member
 
Ed Wright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sand Springs, OK
Posts: 8,132
Likes: 896
Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts
Default Re: Bad track at Pomona

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Beard View Post
The reason I mentioned Tulsa just recently switched is because a track doesn't necessarily use a particular compound based on the sanctioning body, unless it is specifically at a National event. Even for Divisional races, I'm not so sure that the sanctioning bodies don't just use whatever the track uses on a weekly basis.

I'm curious if there is any effect on the surface to using one brand all year, and then spraying something different on it for 1-2 races. You wouldn't think so, since they're scraping the rubber, but.... -=shrug=-

Pageland Dragway in South Carolina is a tiny little track with the best-kept secret. They did a lot of experimenting the last few years with their own homebrew traction compound, and when they hit on it, buddy you could tell! Best 60' times there (with "real" 60' clocks), and the car yanks the wheels higher there than anywhere else. Don't know what they did exactly, but I keep telling them to bottle the stuff and sell it!
The NHRA national events I went to this year, I always looked to see what they used. Never saw anything but PJ-1 / VHT drums.
__________________
Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA
Ed Wright is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.