Economy vs. Economics

rayfin · 11-16-2009, 11:26 PM

In the new advance economics we see that big companies increase the prices, pad their pockets, and then when the company shuts down, no skin off their ***, they have made their money. I'm sure the guys that run NHRA could care less if drag racing dies as long as their personal finances increase.

Bushwacker · 11-16-2009, 11:54 PM

You folks are a bit slow.... when it comes to catching on to NHRA's game.... NHRA doesnt want us.... There are no Average Joes racing in Nascar... soon if you are not a multi millonaire you will not race NHRA. NHRA wants to be like Nascar.... Mark my words...I hate to say it but soon I can say... "I Told You So"
Wake up & smell the coffee!! They have not done anything to increase membership in the lower ranks....
Hell they tried to sell out the company to a group of insiders that were not gonna take the stockers...
Did you folks fail to catch on??? None are so blind as those that refuse to see...Im not a "The world is gonna end sign toter" but Im not blind to the you are not really welcome but we will tolerate you untill we can dump you program that NHRA currently runs.

Julie Jordan · 11-17-2009, 12:30 AM

Great post, Pat. And so many of these guys are always bashing the bean counters of the world. ;-)

X-TECH MAN · 11-17-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bushwacker

You folks are a bit slow.... when it comes to catching on to NHRA's game.... NHRA doesnt want us.... There are no Average Joes racing in Nascar... soon if you are not a multi millonaire you will not race NHRA. NHRA wants to be like Nascar.... Mark my words...I hate to say it but soon I can say... "I Told You So"
Wake up & smell the coffee!! They have not done anything to increase membership in the lower ranks....
Hell they tried to sell out the company to a group of insiders that were not gonna take the stockers...
Did you folks fail to catch on??? None are so blind as those that refuse to see...Im not a "The world is gonna end sign toter" but Im not blind to the you are not really welcome but we will tolerate you untill we can dump you program that NHRA currently runs.

Couldnt have said it better myself.

J Kuchel · 11-17-2009, 06:48 AM

Pat well said. Hope someone with some pull will read your post.

Michael Lyons · 11-17-2009, 07:11 AM

I say we start a petition to elect Pat Joffrion for chairman of the board at NHRA! I'll be the first to sign it!

Bruce Noland · 11-17-2009, 07:43 AM

Pat,

I agree with your economics tutorial. But the track owners can or should adopt and enforce a uniform set of safety standards for our race cars. In fact, that being said, why are tracks that do not host national events still paying nhra money? nhra appears to be hurting your business. I know they are the "brand" name, however people all over the world are finding out that brand names are not what they are cracked up to be. Times have changed but nhra has not. All the tracks that do not host national events could set up a federation and network their computers systems to help push drag racing into the 21st century. 95% of your customers are already in the 21st century. Why drag along a belligerent bunch of money grubbers?

X-TECH MAN · 11-17-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Lyons

I say we start a petition to elect Pat Joffrion for chairman of the board at NHRA! I'll be the first to sign it!

I second it. Never met the man but hear many good things about him.

njk53 · 11-17-2009, 10:16 AM

Pat, you couldn't have stated it any better. As far as sportsman racer, we all have an income range that allows us to participate in NHRA events. Some have higher incomes, some lower. When prices are raised, there will be racers at the bottom of that income range who decides it is no longer economically worth their time, money, and effort to participate in NHRA events. They will go elsewhere to race, reduce their racing schedules, or quit all together. When the prices are lower, you not only keep that group of people racing, you attract new racers because it is now economically viable for them to join and race in the NHRA.

The NHRA has to start from within. They need to cut internal operating costs which includes wages. In turn they can lower all fees associated with racing which will attract more racers.

Jeff Colvert · 11-17-2009, 02:37 PM

Chairman heck, I'll vote Pat for President!! Sack of Mud Bugs in every pot. Thanks Pat for looking out for our sport & drivers.

Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456

11-16-2009, 11:26 PM	#1
rayfin Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sioux city Posts: 134 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics In the new advance economics we see that big companies increase the prices, pad their pockets, and then when the company shuts down, no skin off their ***, they have made their money. I'm sure the guys that run NHRA could care less if drag racing dies as long as their personal finances increase.

11-16-2009, 11:54 PM	#2
Bushwacker Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Biloxi MS The Redneck Riviera Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics You folks are a bit slow.... when it comes to catching on to NHRA's game.... NHRA doesnt want us.... There are no Average Joes racing in Nascar... soon if you are not a multi millonaire you will not race NHRA. NHRA wants to be like Nascar.... Mark my words...I hate to say it but soon I can say... "I Told You So" Wake up & smell the coffee!! They have not done anything to increase membership in the lower ranks.... Hell they tried to sell out the company to a group of insiders that were not gonna take the stockers... Did you folks fail to catch on??? None are so blind as those that refuse to see...Im not a "The world is gonna end sign toter" but Im not blind to the you are not really welcome but we will tolerate you untill we can dump you program that NHRA currently runs.

11-17-2009, 12:30 AM	#3
Julie Jordan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 639 Likes: 90 Liked 547 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Great post, Pat. And so many of these guys are always bashing the bean counters of the world. ;-) __________________ Julie Jordan 7549 STK

11-17-2009, 06:48 AM	#5
J Kuchel Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sterling,Illinois Posts: 111 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Pat well said. Hope someone with some pull will read your post.

11-17-2009, 07:11 AM	#6
Michael Lyons Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Garden City, MI Posts: 226 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics I say we start a petition to elect Pat Joffrion for chairman of the board at NHRA! I'll be the first to sign it!

11-17-2009, 07:43 AM	#7
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Pat, I agree with your economics tutorial. But the track owners can or should adopt and enforce a uniform set of safety standards for our race cars. In fact, that being said, why are tracks that do not host national events still paying nhra money? nhra appears to be hurting your business. I know they are the "brand" name, however people all over the world are finding out that brand names are not what they are cracked up to be. Times have changed but nhra has not. All the tracks that do not host national events could set up a federation and network their computers systems to help push drag racing into the 21st century. 95% of your customers are already in the 21st century. Why drag along a belligerent bunch of money grubbers? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 11-17-2009 at 09:38 AM.

11-17-2009, 10:16 AM	#9
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Pat, you couldn't have stated it any better. As far as sportsman racer, we all have an income range that allows us to participate in NHRA events. Some have higher incomes, some lower. When prices are raised, there will be racers at the bottom of that income range who decides it is no longer economically worth their time, money, and effort to participate in NHRA events. They will go elsewhere to race, reduce their racing schedules, or quit all together. When the prices are lower, you not only keep that group of people racing, you attract new racers because it is now economically viable for them to join and race in the NHRA. The NHRA has to start from within. They need to cut internal operating costs which includes wages. In turn they can lower all fees associated with racing which will attract more racers. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345 Last edited by njk53; 11-17-2009 at 10:18 AM.

11-17-2009, 02:37 PM	#10
Jeff Colvert Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkadelphia, AR Posts: 289 Likes: 8 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Economy vs. Economics Chairman heck, I'll vote Pat for President!! Sack of Mud Bugs in every pot. Thanks Pat for looking out for our sport & drivers. Jeff Colvert SS/G 4456