New Camaro Z28

BlueOval Ralph · 11-14-2009, 02:03 PM

you don't understand what I'm trying to tell you the supercharger and TB are the the problem the super charger will not flow/blow air how ever you want to call it to make 800 hp. I have been envloved in some of tests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by boster58

Blueovalralph , dont fool your self , The LS motors have enough air & fuel to run with the fords. Take away the blower and the ford motors dont get close. I'm a fan of the new mustang because it has the advantage right now . However let me have a blown LS series engine and lets party with the mustang stock or super-stock. Dont forget no factory mustang has even got close to the new LS9 corvette which is one of the fastest car's in the world .

P.S. it does carry the correct HP rating .

Bo Kenney

MikeFicacci · 11-14-2009, 05:26 PM

BlueOval Ralph: I have also been INVOLVED in many tests with the CTS-V, Camaro, and G8. The factory 87mm throttle body (tested at 1,100 cfm) is big enough to handle over 700 horsepower at the rear wheels. Some simple mathematics will prove that the area of a single 87mm throttle body and 2 63.5mm throttle bodies (CJ) are very similar in overall area and thus very similar in maximum CFM allowable and we have pushed the 87mm way past 700 horsepower at the rear wheels.

Also, the blower on the CTS-V will, in fact, run out of efficiency, but again, Lingenfelter, Hennessey, and others have pushed these blowers to the max and 15+ pounds will make 600-650 horsepower at the tires. Using the accepted conversion for IRS suspension vehicles, and the drag of a 6L80E automatic transmission, 650 horsepower at the tires is 808 horsepower at the flywheel. The CTS-V supercharger is equivalent to that of a 1900 Eaton. 800 horsepower is about the maximum but it is possible.

* at factory boost levels, 800 is not attainable.

SSGN · 11-14-2009, 06:13 PM

I think GM should get away from the superchargers and do a turbo LSX then lets see who gets to the finish line first.The turbo will be more effecient and much easier too hook up.remeber turbo lag was invented to give blowers a chance.

bill dedman · 11-14-2009, 08:13 PM

>>> "turbo lag was invented to give blowers a chance."

Now, that's funny; I don't care who you are!!!! LOL!!!

quickford1 · 11-15-2009, 10:06 AM

I think you are all missing the main point. I think GM should get out from Obama care as soon as they can because nothing good is going to come out of GM until they do.
Rich

11-14-2009, 05:26 PM	#2
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 242 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: New Camaro Z28 BlueOval Ralph: I have also been INVOLVED in many tests with the CTS-V, Camaro, and G8. The factory 87mm throttle body (tested at 1,100 cfm) is big enough to handle over 700 horsepower at the rear wheels. Some simple mathematics will prove that the area of a single 87mm throttle body and 2 63.5mm throttle bodies (CJ) are very similar in overall area and thus very similar in maximum CFM allowable and we have pushed the 87mm way past 700 horsepower at the rear wheels. Also, the blower on the CTS-V will, in fact, run out of efficiency, but again, Lingenfelter, Hennessey, and others have pushed these blowers to the max and 15+ pounds will make 600-650 horsepower at the tires. Using the accepted conversion for IRS suspension vehicles, and the drag of a 6L80E automatic transmission, 650 horsepower at the tires is 808 horsepower at the flywheel. The CTS-V supercharger is equivalent to that of a 1900 Eaton. 800 horsepower is about the maximum but it is possible. * at factory boost levels, 800 is not attainable.

11-14-2009, 06:13 PM	#3
SSGN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 645 Likes: 132 Liked 140 Times in 51 Posts	Re: New Camaro Z28 I think GM should get away from the superchargers and do a turbo LSX then lets see who gets to the finish line first.The turbo will be more effecient and much easier too hook up.remeber turbo lag was invented to give blowers a chance.

11-14-2009, 08:13 PM	#4
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Camaro Z28 >>> "turbo lag was invented to give blowers a chance." Now, that's funny; I don't care who you are!!!! LOL!!! __________________ Bill

11-15-2009, 10:06 AM	#5
quickford1 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Davidson, NC Posts: 269 Likes: 524 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: New Camaro Z28 I think you are all missing the main point. I think GM should get out from Obama care as soon as they can because nothing good is going to come out of GM until they do. Rich