Marketing Sportsman Racing - Page 2

X-TECH MAN · 10-29-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross Family Racing

X Tech Man,
Sounds like the way the NEW IHRA is going to do things.
Jeff Ross

No....the IHRA still wants a circus show with the top oilers. Screw those damn things. They just keep the race tracks from RUSTING and take up space.

buzzinhalfdozen · 10-29-2009, 12:06 PM

From the last 2 IHRA Nats. I attended you could run every car down the track twice in the time it took to send 6-8 Top fool cars smoking the tires and oiling the track. Again which would the average fan want to see? Some fast door cars with a bit of Sportsman Mixed in Or the IHRA's non show? Joe

Michael Beard · 10-29-2009, 12:32 PM

Pinks All Out successfully markets 10-sec bracket cars. So, absolutely it can be done. It's all about TV, and how it is packaged. If Pinks wasn't on TV, their events wouldn't draw anywhere near what they do. (see 1320X)

Jim Wahl · 10-29-2009, 01:00 PM

Mark, Put them back in Comp! Jim

chris3racing · 10-29-2009, 01:00 PM

Michael, you have the idea, problem is you used that ugly word "Pinks All Out." The attraction is the publicity. If no one other than on these boards know that you are racing no one is going to show up. An example being I was at the Drag Race Reunion in Henderson. A group of "old guys" were talking about the "no crowd" at the US Nationals at Indy and the massive crowds at "Pinks All Out." We were talking about how the tracks do not have promotors nor do they promote races. We were talking about a track here in North Carolina, been racing for years. A lady over heard our conversation and asked if that track still was racing. This track is open every week-end and people don't know it. Someone that could put together a group and actually promote it will draw spectators.

tim worner · 10-29-2009, 01:14 PM

The York US 30 Reunion race @ Beaver Springs brought back alot of old cars mixed in with the new in a combo race{stock/superstock} that went over real well. Fans packed the place to see the old stuff and got a good look at the new. The wheels up action and car bodys they could relate to was well received. Alot of people stopped by in the pits with all kinds of questions many being when & where can we see you again.

buzzinhalfdozen · 10-29-2009, 01:22 PM

I still remember when brett kepner used to do the commentary for Modified years ago his intimate knowledge of the cars and racers made for a great job of anouncing. He had a way of making the fans take interest as he knew most all of the combos indexes ect. which made it more entertaining for the fans.Most all of our freinds who ran the ROD classes would make sure they were in the stands when Modified ran. Heck I can still remember the mad rush when they would anounce Factory Modified was about to run, hearing those guys screaming those motors gave you chill bumps. Joe As a side note I don't really think it's the actual racing of Pinks that attracts the people as the prospect of maybe being seen on T.V. so yes the T.V. coverage without a doubt makes Pinks what it is.

chris3racing · 10-29-2009, 01:24 PM

Tim/Michael this is what I've tried to discuss here before. That is what people want to see. Look at the race tomorrow night at Z-Max. The Good Guys Street Rod Show is a Lowes Motor Speedway so Z-max has a race tommorow night and guess what? You can see old Pro Stock cars match racing, as some one said. "Hemi Fred" with and original Sox and Martin Duster up against an original Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins monza. There are other groups of cars running also. My guess? There will be a crowd here for this.

I just saw the post about Brett Kepner. If you got a chance to see "Inside Drag Racing" on Sunday you would see that this gentleman is an walking memory bank when it comes to drag racing. I have had the pleasure to talk with him at the East Coast Drag Times Hall of Fame. The shown on Sunday was from Henderson and the Hall of Fame event. Brett did several interviews and talked about several of the cars on display.

Troy Henderson · 10-29-2009, 02:16 PM

Run the cars off the index and raffle off a ride in Jim and Joe's Chevy 2

Mark Yacavone · 10-29-2009, 03:13 PM

A couple of years ago someone posted a video of an 1/8th mile IHRA race in Steele, Ala, maybe?
Brian Olsen was the announcer and I think Myron was in it.
It was a perfect example of what a good announcer can do for S/SS.
Does anyone know of this video or how to access it?

10-29-2009, 12:06 PM	#12
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing From the last 2 IHRA Nats. I attended you could run every car down the track twice in the time it took to send 6-8 Top fool cars smoking the tires and oiling the track. Again which would the average fan want to see? Some fast door cars with a bit of Sportsman Mixed in Or the IHRA's non show? Joe __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117

10-29-2009, 12:32 PM	#13
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing Pinks All Out successfully markets 10-sec bracket cars. So, absolutely it can be done. It's all about TV, and how it is packaged. If Pinks wasn't on TV, their events wouldn't draw anywhere near what they do. (see 1320X) __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

10-29-2009, 01:00 PM	#14
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing Mark, Put them back in Comp! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

10-29-2009, 01:00 PM	#15
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing Michael, you have the idea, problem is you used that ugly word "Pinks All Out." The attraction is the publicity. If no one other than on these boards know that you are racing no one is going to show up. An example being I was at the Drag Race Reunion in Henderson. A group of "old guys" were talking about the "no crowd" at the US Nationals at Indy and the massive crowds at "Pinks All Out." We were talking about how the tracks do not have promotors nor do they promote races. We were talking about a track here in North Carolina, been racing for years. A lady over heard our conversation and asked if that track still was racing. This track is open every week-end and people don't know it. Someone that could put together a group and actually promote it will draw spectators.

10-29-2009, 01:14 PM	#16
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing The York US 30 Reunion race @ Beaver Springs brought back alot of old cars mixed in with the new in a combo race{stock/superstock} that went over real well. Fans packed the place to see the old stuff and got a good look at the new. The wheels up action and car bodys they could relate to was well received. Alot of people stopped by in the pits with all kinds of questions many being when & where can we see you again. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

10-29-2009, 01:22 PM	#17
buzzinhalfdozen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bellevue Ohio Posts: 984 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing I still remember when brett kepner used to do the commentary for Modified years ago his intimate knowledge of the cars and racers made for a great job of anouncing. He had a way of making the fans take interest as he knew most all of the combos indexes ect. which made it more entertaining for the fans.Most all of our freinds who ran the ROD classes would make sure they were in the stands when Modified ran. Heck I can still remember the mad rush when they would anounce Factory Modified was about to run, hearing those guys screaming those motors gave you chill bumps. Joe As a side note I don't really think it's the actual racing of Pinks that attracts the people as the prospect of maybe being seen on T.V. so yes the T.V. coverage without a doubt makes Pinks what it is. __________________ Joe Buchanan SS/BX 3117 Last edited by buzzinhalfdozen; 10-29-2009 at 01:25 PM.

10-29-2009, 01:24 PM	#18
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing Tim/Michael this is what I've tried to discuss here before. That is what people want to see. Look at the race tomorrow night at Z-Max. The Good Guys Street Rod Show is a Lowes Motor Speedway so Z-max has a race tommorow night and guess what? You can see old Pro Stock cars match racing, as some one said. "Hemi Fred" with and original Sox and Martin Duster up against an original Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins monza. There are other groups of cars running also. My guess? There will be a crowd here for this. I just saw the post about Brett Kepner. If you got a chance to see "Inside Drag Racing" on Sunday you would see that this gentleman is an walking memory bank when it comes to drag racing. I have had the pleasure to talk with him at the East Coast Drag Times Hall of Fame. The shown on Sunday was from Henderson and the Hall of Fame event. Brett did several interviews and talked about several of the cars on display. Last edited by chris3racing; 10-29-2009 at 01:30 PM. Reason: additional

10-29-2009, 02:16 PM	#19
Troy Henderson Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 410 Likes: 126 Liked 129 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing Run the cars off the index and raffle off a ride in Jim and Joe's Chevy 2 __________________ Troy Henderson Henderson Race Shop LLC 816-520-5389 www.hendersonraceshop.com Last edited by Troy Henderson; 10-29-2009 at 02:19 PM.

10-29-2009, 03:13 PM	#20
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,815 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,120 Times in 1,951 Posts	Re: Marketing Sportsman Racing A couple of years ago someone posted a video of an 1/8th mile IHRA race in Steele, Ala, maybe? Brian Olsen was the announcer and I think Myron was in it. It was a perfect example of what a good announcer can do for S/SS. Does anyone know of this video or how to access it? __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers