What do you guys think? Drag car or Street car?

[dragster2006]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I hope you put 1/2 as much effort into making something of yourself in life as you do talking tough on the internet.Maybe getting things straight with you father before he isn't there to make up with.I'm done here.
Someday I think you'll see things a bit different.

dude. i have a plan for my life. I work nights full time unloading trucks for a living, i take classes at the local technical school for computer hardware, and i am currently being trained in the heating and air condition business, AND i am building a race car not to mention pay my bills and pay my rent. i think thats quite something if you ask me. most guys my age are either out partying and getting drunk or getting stoned and being spoiled by their parnents. me i actually have goals that i have set and i work my *** off! and i'm not talking tough. im making a proposition to you to bring your *** down here to topeka so i can race you heads up and beat your *** on the drag strip! because you're obviously trying to prove a point.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by dragster2006

dude. i have a plan for my life. I work nights full time unloading trucks for a living, i take classes at the local technical school for computer hardware, and i am currently being trained in the heating and air condition business, AND i am building a race car not to mention pay my bills and pay my rent. i think thats quite something if you ask me. most guys my age are either out partying and getting drunk or getting stoned and being spoiled by their parnents. me i actually have goals that i have set and i work my *** off! and i'm not talking tough. im making a proposition to you to bring your *** down here to topeka so i can race you heads up and beat your *** on the drag strip! because you're obviously trying to prove a point.

It's nice to see you have a good work ethic.As far as beating me heads up you wouldn't have a very tough time doing that since I race a 6 cylinder gremlin that runs mid 13s.I don't think many people would be
impressed.My whole point is for you to learn some people skills.Remember racing is just a little diversion
from real life.

[dragster2006]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

It's nice to see you have a good work ethic.As far as beating me heads up you wouldn't have a very tough time doing that since I race a 6 cylinder gremlin that runs mid 13s.I don't think many people would be
impressed.My whole point is for you to learn some people skills.Remember racing is just a little diversion
from real life.

ya know man i do have people skills i do. but im not lookin to joke around and be teased about my car. i know they dont like the idea of it. but i do. and its cheap. AND FAST. i was looking for straight up answers about it and if it should just be a street/ strip car or a full drag car. but i couldnt get that. ya know i am sorry if i made you guys mad mad. i appologize but damn. show a little respect to me and i'll show respect to you. im just tired of being attacked on here. you guys are giving me a rep that isnt who i really am. its not cool.

[dragst racer]

Just make it a drag car and go have fun. Its hard to race on a computer, sounds like you have a car, headers on the way, and a engine being built so get it togeather and race.

[dragster2006]

Originally Posted by dragst racer

Just make it a drag car and go have fun. Its hard to race on a computer, sounds like you have a car, headers on the way, and a engine being built so get it togeather and race.

im goin too! i am really really stoked about the car and i hope to have it all done by next april. my buddy has the car right now because hes installing the roll cage. its over at his dads shop, and its looking really really good. hopefully i can get ahold of a camera pretty soon and take some pictures of it so i can post them on here. but other than that yeah its a working progress. getting ready to save up a little bit of money for the aje cross member. and i also found some really awesome weld racing wheels in the jegs catalog that i am really digging. they're the weld aluma star 2.0 fronts that have the black anodized finish. BADASS. but other than that its getting there!

[Freddie]

Originally Posted by dragster2006

im goin too! i am really really stoked about the car and i hope to have it all done by next april. my buddy has the car right now because hes installing the roll cage. its over at his dads shop, and its looking really really good. hopefully i can get ahold of a camera pretty soon and take some pictures of it so i can post them on here. but other than that yeah its a working progress. getting ready to save up a little bit of money for the aje cross member. and i also found some really awesome weld racing wheels in the jegs catalog that i am really digging. they're the weld aluma star 2.0 fronts that have the black anodized finish. BADASS. but other than that its getting there!

Not looking to bust your balls or anything, but throughout this thread you talk about how YOUR building this bad *** car.... Truth is its only a mustang with a damn chevy, anyone could do this... Im sure you will have fun with it.. but you claim your building this car, yet I read its at someones shop to have a cage put in.... Someone else is doing the motor... What the hell are you doing other than paying other people to do the work????


Hell anyone can build a car that way....


If you trully want to run your flap on here and earn the respect you think you should be getting from the get go... learn what the hell your doing, and do the work yourself... Most of us on here build our own cars from ground up...

You come on here asking for advice, yet you seem to have the answers for everything... instead of listening to what others on here are offering for advice, you typicly act like the kid you are and jump on everyones **** for making comments about putting a chevy on a ford...

As for your comment of old school hot rods... You couldnt even come close to understand what went into building one until you build one.. and I dont mean send it here or there to have stuff done for you...

[dragster2006]

Originally Posted by Freddie

Not looking to bust your balls or anything, but throughout this thread you talk about how YOUR building this bad *** car.... Truth is its only a mustang with a damn chevy, anyone could do this... Im sure you will have fun with it.. but you claim your building this car, yet I read its at someones shop to have a cage put in.... Someone else is doing the motor... What the hell are you doing other than paying other people to do the work????


Hell anyone can build a car that way....


If you trully want to run your flap on here and earn the respect you think you should be getting from the get go... learn what the hell your doing, and do the work yourself... Most of us on here build our own cars from ground up...

You come on here asking for advice, yet you seem to have the answers for everything... instead of listening to what others on here are offering for advice, you typicly act like the kid you are and jump on everyones **** for making comments about putting a chevy on a ford...

As for your comment of old school hot rods... You couldnt even come close to understand what went into building one until you build one.. and I dont mean send it here or there to have stuff done for you...

Well. for your information. i dont NOT own a tig welder otherwise i would weld the roll cage myself! but then again i am not the greatest at tig welding and i am not about to weld it together with a MIG, and i want the cage to be as safe as possible so that is why i had it sent to my friends shop so he could weld it. also i want it to be certified. i am having the engine professionally built for me at a place in texas that builds race engines because i want the most power i can get since im on a budget ALSO BECAUSE I AM NOT A FREAKING WYOTECH GRAQDUATE! The things i am doing. well sir. i am WORKING FULL TIME 48 HOURS A WEEK WORKING NIGHTS FROM 10PM TO 7AM, so that i can have the privilege of being able to race on the weekends and because i cant build the engine or weld the roll cage because i dont have the time to do that! and because i want it to be as professional as possible! and as for old school hotrods. i know about that stuff buddy my grandpa is a hot rodder he grew up in the 50's and 60's building street rods and is all into that stuff and has even had a 32' 5 window coupe that he built and sold on the barret jackson collector car auction. if you dont think i know anything about street rods then i suggest you get on the barret-jacksons site and search for lot #1346 a red 32 ford 5 window coupe because that was my grandfathers.

[goinbroke2]

Wow, pages of bickering. Different approach would of avoided all this. Your young full of piss and vinigar, good for you.

Hows this;
If your just getting into racing I would say build a modest street car and tow it to the track. Nothing worse then breaking a car and needing a ride home. Why a modest street car? Because you are starting out and it is more fun/better experience to learn running against others at your level (street or sportsman) then building a 11 flat car and being lumped in with the 50year olds with 35years experience.(pro/super pro)
It's not the car, it's seat time that will win you races.

Or, you can build a race car, but make it run 12.50-13.50 with deadly consistency and have fun.

Or, you can build a all out 10.50 race car, show up at a track with a "I can do it all" attitude and be on the trailer first round all summer long. By the end of the summer you'll be upset/tired/sick of it and you won't enjoy racing and quit. And yes that includes running 10.50, scaring the crap out of yourself, but after your used to it being bored running 12 flat.

As far as the chebby in a ford, if your an antagonistic kind of guy (which it appears here, you are) then whatever, do what you want. But there is no excuse anymore to run a chebby motor in a ford. If your a chebby guy, then your just using a ford body for your engine because chebby cars suck so bad. There is a couple of fox body mustangs around here with sbc's in them. One particular one went from a reliable 12.00 second 351W to a 11.30 350sbc but has scattered 3 engines in the 3 years since the change, so whatever floats your boat I guess.
You understand it's a BRACKET race eh? The ET isn't as important as having fun and being consistent. (regardless of the make of the car or engine)

Have fun, enjoy the hobby, just ease up on the attitude a bit. (yeah we were all that young and wound up at one time, I went with fords because NOBODY else ran them..I was the antagonistic one! LOL!)

[dragster2006]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Wow, pages of bickering. Different approach would of avoided all this. Your young full of piss and vinigar, good for you.

Hows this;
If your just getting into racing I would say build a modest street car and tow it to the track. Nothing worse then breaking a car and needing a ride home. Why a modest street car? Because you are starting out and it is more fun/better experience to learn running against others at your level (street or sportsman) then building a 11 flat car and being lumped in with the 50year olds with 35years experience.(pro/super pro)
It's not the car, it's seat time that will win you races.

Or, you can build a race car, but make it run 12.50-13.50 with deadly consistency and have fun.

Or, you can build a all out 10.50 race car, show up at a track with a "I can do it all" attitude and be on the trailer first round all summer long. By the end of the summer you'll be upset/tired/sick of it and you won't enjoy racing and quit. And yes that includes running 10.50, scaring the crap out of yourself, but after your used to it being bored running 12 flat.

As far as the chebby in a ford, if your an antagonistic kind of guy (which it appears here, you are) then whatever, do what you want. But there is no excuse anymore to run a chebby motor in a ford. If your a chebby guy, then your just using a ford body for your engine because chebby cars suck so bad. There is a couple of fox body mustangs around here with sbc's in them. One particular one went from a reliable 12.00 second 351W to a 11.30 350sbc but has scattered 3 engines in the 3 years since the change, so whatever floats your boat I guess.
You understand it's a BRACKET race eh? The ET isn't as important as having fun and being consistent. (regardless of the make of the car or engine)

Have fun, enjoy the hobby, just ease up on the attitude a bit. (yeah we were all that young and wound up at one time, I went with fords because NOBODY else ran them..I was the antagonistic one! LOL!)

hey buddy i didnt join this forum to bicker... i posted in the bracket forum because i'm building a bracket car but considering the engine i was building and all the things I'm doing to it i wanted to know whether or not it should just be a street/ strip car or a full drag car.. and i joined because i wanted some professional opinions but all i got was negative nonsense and put downs and making me out to be some young punk kid. thats not who i am. im NOT some young punk kid. its my first time building a race car and i dont have anybody else to help me out and give me advice. the only guy on here that really helped me out was Sean Kennedy. hes not a jerk like these other guys on this thread. its just a damn shame there aren't that many more people in the world like him. but i guess if it makes those old farts feel good to bash on the young guys then thats fine we'll just see what the results are on race day. BUT back to the subject. like you were saying about building a 12.50 car yeah im pretty sure its gonna be running around there maybe faster. just depends on the ole budget. i kinda gotta lighten up on the build because im currently not working now and because of my bills. so that stuff has to come first. (GOD DAMNIT I HATE BILLS!!!!) about the engine... i dont know much about ford engines as much as i do chevys and plus this engine was affordable to have built and so thats why i chose the 350. but i dont think im gonna be able to get the car race ready by my deadline which was around march through may... but anyways yeah most likely 12's for the ole chev-stang... just a fun weekend bracket car

[goinbroke2]

Fox body stripped down for racing should be 2700 or so. (less if using fibreglass or chromemolly etc) So I would say 300-350hp should be enough to have fun with. A 5.0 with cam and aftermarket heads/intake/headers on a stock 5.0gt shortblock will give you enough.(5.0gt's come stock with forged pistons,roller cam, bottom end good for 6500rpm) or you can run a 351. Chevies can be cheaper but the cost of sbf to sbc is really minimal now.

So, you got a sbc, glide or t350, 4:11 rear gear. Don't wind it too tight as that will eat your budget. Sub frame connectors, update the rear arms(axle?) all the standard fox tricks and you'll have fun. When you want to go faster build the motor up a bit, but don't go crazy as it's a bracket car. You'll have more fun in a more consistent reliable car if you run a bbf or bbc at 5500-6000 all day long then 7500-8000rpm small block and changing springs etc every half season.

Yeah I'm a big ford guy and don't like to see crossbreading as there is no excuse for it anymore, but I'm not going to scream and jump up and down about what somebody else is doing....unless they're in my face about it.