Towing In North Carolina

[chris3racing]

There have been a lot of issues in North Carolina over race cars and haulers; however, a couple of years ago all of the laws were change thanks to Steve Earwood at Rockingham and several NASCAR people who got involve. There was a couple of internet post concerning towing in North Carolina. I will try to call Steve now and see if I can get some information concerning your incident. There have been some reports in previous year about troopers who don't know the law.

[joe176]

Originally Posted by chris3racing

There have been a lot of issues in North Carolina over race cars and haulers; however, a couple of years ago all of the laws were change thanks to Steve Earwood at Rockingham and several NASCAR people who got involve. There was a couple of internet post concerning towing in North Carolina. I will try to call Steve now and see if I can get some information concerning your incident. There have been some reports in previous year about troopers who don't know the law.

Chris your are right...the NYS trooper I spoke to was not sure on the law and pointed me towards the DOT official at the inspection site.

[Mike Crutchfield]

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations manual under 390.3(f)(3)
Exceptions. The occasional transporation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in furtherance of a commercial enterprise;

Further research will find this.
Question 21;
Does the exemption in 390.39(f)(3) for the occasional transportation of personal property by individules not for compensation nor in furtherance of commercial enterprise apply to persons who occasionally use CMV's to transport cars, boats,horses, ect., to race, tournaments shows or similar events, even if prize money is offered at these events?

Guidance:
The exemption would apply to this kind of transportation, provided; (1) The underlying activities are not undertaken for profit, i.e., (a) prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes,and (b) the cost of the underlying activities is not deducted as a business expense for tax purposes; and where relevant;(2) corporate sponsorship is not involved. Drivers must confer with their State licensure to determine the licensing provisions to which they are subject.


Hope this helps you.


Mike

[tim worner]

Yesterday went to the DOT in Harrisburg,Pa with questions on this subject. The bottom line was are u commercial or not. If commercial and over 10,000 lbs you have to stop at weigh stations and have a DOT number and in compliance with insurance,log book, correct weight,ect. However under 26.001 lbs and not commercial ok. We need a way to show non-commercial. The fine in Pa. for not stopping at the weigh station is $300. So what to do. I for one am not going to stop untill I have too. I hope the bill passes in N.C> and is adopted by other states. In N.Y. over 17,000 some odd lbs you are supposed to have a HUT sticker on your vehicle{highway usage tax) I wonder if NHRA would help us with this????????????

[63corvette]

Kirk, I live in Texas and have recently went through the license procedure for my tow rig.
I have a diesel pusher motorhome with a 33,000 GVW.
When I asked the question of the license division when I bought the motorhome I was told I just needed a Class C. That was in 2001. After discussions on here and with other racers I found I needed the Class B.
After taking the written and driving test in July of 09 which included parallel parking a 40 ft motorhome, I now have a Class B Texas license which allows me to drive the motorhome legally pulling a trailer of less than 10,000 in weight.
The license dept told me I was not required to carry a log book as my license was not a CDL and CDL drivers were the only ones required to have the log books.
It seems you get a different story from everyone you talk to.
I have not been stopped yet and have been pulling the rig for 8 years and 85,000 miles now, but I do expect it at some point. I just hope I do not get one of those a hole officers.
My 2 Cents

[Jeff Teuton]

If your truck is titled in a company name, ABC Inc. or AABC RAcing, you are subject to DOT regulations that start at 10000 lbs. If the truck is in your name personally, the approach I would use is the 390 exemption that exempts a vehicle that normally would be a regulated vehicle for personal use. North Carolina has become the absolute worst in the nation. Steve Earwood of Rockingham fame is fight ing the battle as is the North Carolina Motorsports Assoication. On the NC website, they cite the 390 exemption, but the field people don't know about it. If you want to call me I can write the letter for you. My cell is 985-804-6161.

[John Warehime]

Get a lighter trailer, or stay out of NC.LOL, No really... I have a copy of the federal DOT laws that I carry. Federal law always trumps state law, however, any areas not clearly defined by the feds, are fair game for states. Anytime a NC state trooper gets you( a Yankee LOL!!) to over react, he can arrest your ***, and then you have a real moneymaker for the state (fines, legal fees, etc.). Remember your lawer is the cop's Brother-in-law.LOL. More revenue generating BS. See you at Atco.

[Bernie Cunningham]

Hey Jeff,
can you supply a link for that 390 exemption so we can print it out.
Thx.

[Mike Crutchfield]

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...0163348002325f

question 21

[BlueOval Ralph]

Only on Federal Funded Highway Interstate or US Highways not on State Roads

Originally Posted by John Warehime

Get a lighter trailer, or stay out of NC.LOL, No really... I have a copy of the federal DOT laws that I carry. Federal law always trumps state law, however, any areas not clearly defined by the feds, are fair game for states. Anytime a NC state trooper gets you( a Yankee LOL!!) to over react, he can arrest your ***, and then you have a real moneymaker for the state (fines, legal fees, etc.). Remember your lawer is the cop's Brother-in-law.LOL. More revenue generating BS. See you at Atco.