1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower?

chevy620 · 09-02-2009, 10:39 AM

Have Class Elims at one ot two Nationals per division.
At other events make it a dial-in race, like it is now... BUT... eliminate the heads-up races during eliminations. I think more guys would run Stock and S/Stock if they didn't have to deal with being killed in a head-up run with a guy who can slaughter the index but doesn;t have to drive that round.
Probably not a popular response on this site, but we need to do something before the Classes no longer exist.

Now is the time to get some fresh ideas out there. Monitoring every car, every pass is not going to continue in my opinion, this is just one of many options to consider.

Bobby DiDomenico · 09-02-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chevy620

Have Class Elims at one ot two Nationals per division.
At other events make it a dial-in race, like it is now... BUT... eliminate the heads-up races during eliminations. I think more guys would run Stock and S/Stock if they didn't have to deal with being killed in a head-up run with a guy who can slaughter the index but doesn;t have to drive that round.
Probably not a popular response on this site, but we need to do something before the Classes no longer exist.

Now is the time to get some fresh ideas out there. Monitoring every car, every pass is not going to continue in my opinion, this is just one of many options to consider.

You are correct, it won't be a popular post, but ending "heads up" runs during the eliminator may be the only way to keep the classes around. As it is now, the exotic items that have crept in have made some folks drop out, and it is clear that the faster cars have a big advantage or there wouldn't be so many recently built.

Around my house there used to be more 442's than Oldsmobile built, but now it is the 396/427 Camaro at NHRA races which vastly out pace production. Alas, the lowly forgotten Vega...

mannymen · 09-02-2009, 11:15 AM

As I also mentioned about a month ago. NHRA tends to follow what the IHRA does in regards to eliminating heads up runs at races and for new classes. IHRA = Steve Jobs and the NHRA = Bill Gates

Bob Bender · 09-02-2009, 11:48 AM

Hey ED, we need to take our slow cars and go home...........

RON TAYLOR · 09-02-2009, 12:06 PM

They need shove the ahfs !!!

mannymen · 09-02-2009, 12:12 PM

You can take your slow cars and move them along with ours to the Sportsman (slow) ET class at your weekend bracket race, but wait then there will eventually be big dollar bracket races for the slow sportsman cars. When that happens the races will just get infested by the Ricardson's and Bogacki's and then we'll all be pushed out again with nowhere to go. Wednesday night car cruises it will be.

cutta · 09-02-2009, 12:35 PM

So the main concern here is just how to deal with the "heads up" situation on raceday right?

From a fan perspective, this seems like a good idea and it looks like it will save money. Less cars trigger the ahfs meaning less teardowns, less crying, and more 1320 racing. It looks as if this could be a little harder on parts for some, but otherwise seems fair. The only problem I see is that everyone wants to run in A/SA, A/S, and B/SA, B/S where there can be a lack of parity in performance sometimes causing more heads up battles and causing more of them to be decided by performance instead of the driver. Super Stock doesn't have as many classes that are as filled as these so they shouldn't have much of problem.

I just don't see how this will affect all of the classes below D/SA, most of those classes will be fine even with this rule in place. That really shouldn't keep very many people home.

Like I said, this is an outside perspective.

Ed Fernandez · 09-02-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Bender

Hey ED, we need to take our slow cars and go home...........

Two Sports Nat's in each div.We already have the Dutch.Add one at Atco.F$%@ National Events.
Bob,you could use the wagon for car service.Just park in any mall.

Clay Arnett · 09-02-2009, 03:35 PM

They can eliminate us from national events. I prefer they have more national opens that run class eliminations. If they do away with heads up races during the elminator then I would be done. The performance and technical challenge is what appeals to me about class racing not the dial in racing.

James Perrone · 09-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Don;t forget if you lower the index you get rid of the1000 ft DUMPERS
This is why you have heads up racing to make it more interesting..

09-02-2009, 10:39 AM	#1
chevy620 Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 188 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? Have Class Elims at one ot two Nationals per division. At other events make it a dial-in race, like it is now... BUT... eliminate the heads-up races during eliminations. I think more guys would run Stock and S/Stock if they didn't have to deal with being killed in a head-up run with a guy who can slaughter the index but doesn;t have to drive that round. Probably not a popular response on this site, but we need to do something before the Classes no longer exist. Now is the time to get some fresh ideas out there. Monitoring every car, every pass is not going to continue in my opinion, this is just one of many options to consider.

09-02-2009, 11:15 AM	#3
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? As I also mentioned about a month ago. NHRA tends to follow what the IHRA does in regards to eliminating heads up runs at races and for new classes. IHRA = Steve Jobs and the NHRA = Bill Gates __________________ N/A

09-02-2009, 11:48 AM	#4
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,734 Likes: 1,599 Liked 460 Times in 91 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? Hey ED, we need to take our slow cars and go home........... __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

09-02-2009, 12:06 PM	#5
RON TAYLOR Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: LINCOLN ,NE Posts: 14 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? They need shove the ahfs !!!

09-02-2009, 12:12 PM	#6
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? You can take your slow cars and move them along with ours to the Sportsman (slow) ET class at your weekend bracket race, but wait then there will eventually be big dollar bracket races for the slow sportsman cars. When that happens the races will just get infested by the Ricardson's and Bogacki's and then we'll all be pushed out again with nowhere to go. Wednesday night car cruises it will be. __________________ N/A

09-02-2009, 12:35 PM	#7
cutta Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 347 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? So the main concern here is just how to deal with the "heads up" situation on raceday right? From a fan perspective, this seems like a good idea and it looks like it will save money. Less cars trigger the ahfs meaning less teardowns, less crying, and more 1320 racing. It looks as if this could be a little harder on parts for some, but otherwise seems fair. The only problem I see is that everyone wants to run in A/SA, A/S, and B/SA, B/S where there can be a lack of parity in performance sometimes causing more heads up battles and causing more of them to be decided by performance instead of the driver. Super Stock doesn't have as many classes that are as filled as these so they shouldn't have much of problem. I just don't see how this will affect all of the classes below D/SA, most of those classes will be fine even with this rule in place. That really shouldn't keep very many people home. Like I said, this is an outside perspective. __________________ Adriel Paradise, Paradise Racing Team Driver/Crew Chief(at least my dad claims me to be) B.S. Mechanical Engineering, University of Arkansas

09-02-2009, 03:35 PM	#9
Clay Arnett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hartsville, IN Posts: 128 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? They can eliminate us from national events. I prefer they have more national opens that run class eliminations. If they do away with heads up races during the elminator then I would be done. The performance and technical challenge is what appeals to me about class racing not the dial in racing.

09-02-2009, 03:42 PM	#10
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,681 Likes: 3,388 Liked 1,828 Times in 427 Posts	Re: 1.50 Under Before Getting Horsepower? Don;t forget if you lower the index you get rid of the1000 ft DUMPERS This is why you have heads up racing to make it more interesting.. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK