Hipsters Brake

Dave Steltz · 08-17-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ray sowers

You can either buy them from Jegs. or Summit, Jegs has free shipping, or from Steve Grady, Grove city Ohio. Ray Sowers

Ray, same answer as above..I dont see one that says it will work with a Hipster brake...should I assume that any solenoid will work with any brake ?

Rich Biebel · 08-17-2009, 09:03 AM

Solinoid just de-energizes so how would one cause your RT's to be slow? A sticking valve maybe but the solinoid doesn't have much to do with release time.....

Dave Steltz · 08-17-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Solinoid just de-energizes so how would one cause your RT's to be slow? A sticking valve maybe but the solinoid doesn't have much to do with release time.....

Rich, I am having some issues with a weird r/t (like a .100 or something)comes up every once in a while and mostly when the car/trans is a little warmer/later rounds......everything has been gone thru several times...the soleniod is about 5 years old and I'm thinking its time to replace it to rule out one more thing, or fix it...

I'm open to any other suggestions ....

63corvette · 08-17-2009, 10:28 AM

Dave, is it a aluminum valve body?
If so read the other transbrake thread.
This issue is why I do not use the alum brake on any trans I build for myself or a customer.
Hope this helps.
Rick

Dave Steltz · 08-17-2009, 10:50 AM

Rick, nope , steel valvebody...

Rich Biebel · 08-17-2009, 12:05 PM

Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble.....

GaryGoFast · 08-17-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble.....

Maybe he's just a little long in the tooth.

63corvette · 08-17-2009, 03:34 PM

Dave, I do not have a good answer for you on this one.
Usually if a solenoid goes bad the brake will not hold or holds intermittenly.
Heat is a killer of a lot of things on a trans.
I always suggest running as big a trans cooler as possible and a deep pan if possible. That helps with the temp issues.
That is about all I can come up with at this time.
Hope this helps.
Rick

Dave Steltz · 08-17-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble.....

Yea yea...and believe me that certainly happens from time to time, but these come when I am really focused so I'm not ready to believe thats it me (yet)..

Some one else posted a reply about "getting long in the tooth" ...I think he used to race but I cant really remember when, so I'm not gonna comment on that one....

Charlie Yannetti · 08-18-2009, 10:43 AM

Hey Dave.... I had a similar problem some years back.... intermittent release.... my lights were worse than yours.... went through everything and found nothing.... then one night at Island, in the semi's, I let go of the button and the car sat for like 15 seconds.... went home, got a new button, problem solved.... check it out if you haven't already.....

08-17-2009, 09:03 AM	#2
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Hipsters Brake Solinoid just de-energizes so how would one cause your RT's to be slow? A sticking valve maybe but the solinoid doesn't have much to do with release time..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

08-17-2009, 10:28 AM	#4
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 552 Likes: 128 Liked 359 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Hipsters Brake Dave, is it a aluminum valve body? If so read the other transbrake thread. This issue is why I do not use the alum brake on any trans I build for myself or a customer. Hope this helps. Rick

08-17-2009, 10:50 AM	#5
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hipsters Brake Rick, nope , steel valvebody... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

08-17-2009, 12:05 PM	#6
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Hipsters Brake Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble..... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

08-17-2009, 03:34 PM	#8
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 552 Likes: 128 Liked 359 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Hipsters Brake Dave, I do not have a good answer for you on this one. Usually if a solenoid goes bad the brake will not hold or holds intermittenly. Heat is a killer of a lot of things on a trans. I always suggest running as big a trans cooler as possible and a deep pan if possible. That helps with the temp issues. That is about all I can come up with at this time. Hope this helps. Rick

08-18-2009, 10:43 AM	#10
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Hipsters Brake Hey Dave.... I had a similar problem some years back.... intermittent release.... my lights were worse than yours.... went through everything and found nothing.... then one night at Island, in the semi's, I let go of the button and the car sat for like 15 seconds.... went home, got a new button, problem solved.... check it out if you haven't already.....