New Sportsman Classes ?

[Dick Butler]

I appreciate the responses and unfortunately thats why Class racing will die a very slow agonizing death..

[STK1217]

Dick are you talking about a claimer engine stock class or something of that sort.

[rayfin]

When we built our jr dragster it was 5hp Briggs only min weight was 250 pounds and .030 overbore. Before I knew it they were not even weighing the cars, billit blocks, $3,400 engines and .120+ overbore was the norm. Some cars, I could smell the nitro. One guy had 3 jr dragsters he paid 10 grand apiece for. Althought they bracket race, it still didn't seem fair. I don't think there will ever be a budget class again.

[greg fulk]

Here's my way of thinking... Stock is not easy! Yes you can build one for cheap ( if you like to go slow) look @ dads car we have about $4000 in it & it runs .3 under. but how many people want to run 15.'s? NOT MANY! Or you can run one of the FWD car but their again not many people want to. I know no 1 likes the idea of this class but we (dad) have a 67 Camaro SS was a 396/325 car factory.... we have bracket raced it for years! & I do mean years... (like 20 now) I would love to put a dish piston 305 in that car BUT we can't... I think their are more cars out their that would do that if they could... that being said I don't see alot of SS/GT car that are older cars now that they have opened up the rules for that? I think the thing that's wrong with S & SS right now is Jr. dragsters... Hey they (for the most part) go right from a Jr. to either a SC car or a T/D ... what do ya do?

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by greg fulk

Here's my way of thinking... Stock is not easy! Yes you can build one for cheap ( if you like to go slow) look @ dads car we have about $4000 in it & it runs .3 under. but how many people want to run 15.'s? NOT MANY! Or you can run one of the FWD car but their again not many people want to. I know no 1 likes the idea of this class but we (dad) have a 67 Camaro SS was a 396/325 car factory.... we have bracket raced it for years! & I do mean years... (like 20 now) I would love to put a dish piston 305 in that car BUT we can't... I think their are more cars out their that would do that if they could... that being said I don't see alot of SS/GT car that are older cars now that they have opened up the rules for that? I think the thing that's wrong with S & SS right now is Jr. dragsters... Hey they (for the most part) go right from a Jr. to either a SC car or a T/D ... what do ya do?

aww, come on, you pay the same entry money for a 10 sec car as ya do for a 15 sec car and you get more track time with a slow car...
prolly a good thing this matador i picked up yesterday has so much body damage, it'd come in as a U/SA...(even MORE track time,especially up here)
jsut yankin' yer chain...

the reason I'M getting back into racing is; #1 stock has always amazed me and #2, i want to see if i can be competitive legally, mostly on a local level,though.
that's why i ask a lot of stupil "legality" questions...

[randy wilson]

brodix spec heads would be a start. they could even inspect heads at event. class racing may be dead but for some reason local roundy round tracks are exploding all over the country with a 100 cars a night and 4000 plus spectators, and they have not had to dial in or brake out once. make all the excuses you want but the HRA groups have missed the boat.

[Michael Beard]

Actually, I had gone to a small asphalt oval track in NE Ohio, and they did have a breakout rule, at least in their Stock-type class. The announcer explained what the rules were, and the fans got it with no problem.

For me, there are plenty of options for affordable racing, whether it be brackets or Stock eliminator. I got started in Stock with a FWD car, and bought a crate motor car at a very fair price several years ago. I've spent more money on it of my own volition. Personally, I wouldn't have any interest in a spec class... cookie-cutter cars aren't interesting, and realistically, you're not going to have a "cheap" alternative that's fast & interesting. You *can* race Stock or Hot Rod/Super Street on a budget. If people *don't* race these classes on a budget, it's because they don't want to.

[David Barton]

The more rules you apply the more time and money it will take to be on top. Some people like the challenge and some don't. There is already classes for both parties.

[Urraco]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

I appreciate the responses and unfortunately thats why Class racing will die a very slow agonizing death..

Class racing was supposed to die in 1972 according to the experts of the time.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Urraco

Class racing was supposed to die in 1972 according to the experts of the time.

It did die when they eliminated the old Jr. stockers in 1972 and made them all S/S. It died again in 1985 when the cam and spring rule changed. It died again when they included S/C, S/G at National Events ....less room for class cars (way to many cars now and I know Im going to catch hell for this statement). The last death? T/S and T/D at the NHRA events (again way to many cars, no room for the large rigs, and they take to long to run with thier burn outs past the starting line). Just a few reasons why stock and S/S has dwindled over the years even if you think the CLASS racer car count is healthy. OK....Just my opinion so shoot me.