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Old 06-22-2009, 09:29 PM   #51
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The Nascar intake was a large cross ram and the carb (including the 3 bbl) sat in a 'bathtub' in the middle. We raced one in a mud racing truck in the 80's. If the combo was 430 with that manifold, it would be ok. That thing they make you use was not even made till about 10 or 15 years later. And as for the scoops that came in some of the cars, anything was possible then. How about a blue car with a red interior? The last 69 cop car we sold was that. Or a 69 Coronet R/T Pale yellow, green interior, and a bright red stripe. We had that too. How about a street hemi manifold with inline AFB's that was sunk in the middle like the Titanic. Still got that one. And there are some of the original Nascar manifolds around, just a little hard to find. Anybody need any 'still in the box' 64 Nascar rods. If you ever observe some of the die cast Hemi motors, some of them have a very close model of the single 4bbl manifold on them.

Jeff,

If I remember correctly the "bath tub" manifold was designed with a narrow high RPM range. I know we used to run a NASCAR max wedge manifold on our non-race track max and it didn't have any low end at all but started to sing around 5500.....we just told everybody that it was a 383 with a cam!

Here's a question......why can '63 Max Wedge cars run aluminum front ends but the '64 cars can't?

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Old 06-23-2009, 07:04 AM   #52
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Jim its listed on the 64 spec sheet, 425hp A * stock 7.52 Alum 64
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:24 AM   #53
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When I was a kid the Chryler/Plymouth dealer near us had a beautiful (metallic?) blue AAR 340 Six Pack 'Cuda. And parked next to it was a horrible tan/mustard (?) Superbird with brown bench seat interior and automatic on the column. The Superbird sat on the lot for over a year. I can't imagine how anyone ever let that car get assembled without the customer paying cash in advance.

Someone finally bought it 'cause it used to be parked in a company lot everyday. Of course that was back when parking spots and garages were designed for American cars, not Hondas. :-)
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:15 AM   #54
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David; The '043' intakes for the 4-BBL carb had a notch cut in the divider wall that ran between the centerlines of the primary and secondary throttle shafts and was about .68" deep. I asked Gendora if the M-1 intake could be cut to match the '043' and unfortunately the answer was no. Steve
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:19 AM   #55
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I was wondering about the AAR hood I saw on the Larry Hill car at one time, until now I didn't know it was considered a replacement for the shaker on 4 bbl. combos. An old friend of my dad's runs a 71 340 Barracuda stock with a shaker, anyone know if the AAR hood works better?
If it is considered a replacement that is a bunch of BS. They only came on the 340+6.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:16 AM   #56
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Jim its listed on the 64 spec sheet, 425hp A * stock 7.52 Alum 64

Thanks Bob, now all I have to do is save up $ 30,000.00 and I might be able to buy the front end.

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Old 06-23-2009, 11:41 AM   #57
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Yes Frank, I meant E body, which is Cuda/Challenger.

Larry, did you ever play ABA Basketball?

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Old 06-23-2009, 12:56 PM   #58
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Myron, that is the birdbath, bathtub, etc. We had a SS/DA motor we ran in a mud truck with AFB'sX2 on a rat roaster. The ride was so violent the carbs didn't work well. A friend who used to own Arrow Racing Engines in Detroit sent me one of those and we used a race 850 on it. It was about 50% better, and then the Dominator we put on it was even better. Picture this; a 79 Dodge W150/ SS/DA motor with the Birdbath, 727 T/F, Turbo Action Converter, 2 to 1 reduction in the transfer case, 5.38's on each end, and 4 32" tractor tires on the corners in a 3/8 mile mud oval 4 times around. Now that's a ride!!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:00 PM   #59
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Larry,

Just curious, what's the problem with the L-88 carburetor?

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Old 06-23-2009, 01:11 PM   #60
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Back in the 70's I had several friends order L-88 carbs. (850 cfm) over the GM parts counter. Never a problem.
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