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Old 06-22-2009, 11:02 AM   #1
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Well now I know why I haven’t been getting my newspaper. The “paper boy” is out drag racing. Wow what would that combo run with the cross ram? Hey let’s see if we can get NHRA to approve that. It’s only paper Right? On serious note, we all follow the rules that are given to us. That’s why my cuda sits in garage (3825 LBS A/SA) .
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Old 06-22-2009, 07:32 AM   #2
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Serious question:

Quite a few Mopar guys have shown me "paperwork" on this T/A hood deal, but nothing direct from Chrysler. How come none of the top-of-the-line diecast companies, which go to great lengths to re-create muscle cars accurately, ever build a Hemi or 440x6 Challenger with a T/A hood? And How come you never see one restored that way at a car show or on Barrett-Jackson?

Also, was the AAR hood an option too on a 440, because I've seen that deal too?
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:04 AM   #3
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Larry, what is the correct intake manifold for the NASCAR Hemi?

On a different note, if there is a shootout Al Carp said he will put up $500 and so will I.

Just to clear things up, we run the NASCAR combo because NHRA said we're allowed to. And because Al's '70 Hemi Challenger was hit 215 pounds. I don't make the rules, I just race by them. If it were up to me I'd like to run the crossram, except I'd probably have to weigh 3900.
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Old 06-22-2009, 10:08 AM   #4
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Serious question:

Quite a few Mopar guys have shown me "paperwork" on this T/A hood deal, but nothing direct from Chrysler. How come none of the top-of-the-line diecast companies, which go to great lengths to re-create muscle cars accurately, ever build a Hemi or 440x6 Challenger with a T/A hood? And How come you never see one restored that way at a car show or on Barrett-Jackson?

Also, was the AAR hood an option too on a 440, because I've seen that deal too?
I had a semi factory deal (had to buy the car but everything else was free) in 1971 along with Gene Collins on a Dodge Challenger and it came with a 383 and a shaker hood like Dave Boertmans Rod Shop car. The word as I heard it later that year is the shaker hoods became hard to get and several Challengers came thru with the T/A hood. Never saw one until many years later though. I never heard anything on the 'Cudas with the AAR hood. Its no different than the .527 cam on the 428 CJ's or anything else that is allowed these days. NHRA allowed the hoods years ago so they are allowed to run them. Not much different than Edelbrock heads on 396 Camaros and 390/428/427 Fords. Not to mention the NASCAR Hemi. Its not what is stock....its what is allowed these days is all that counts. The single 4 Hemi had a low rise bath tub shaped intake manifold with a 3 barrel carb (remember those?). I have the numbers at home but good luck in ever finding the correct pieces. .

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Old 06-22-2009, 10:30 AM   #5
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I have an original nascar short track intake and carb. The intake is a dual plane type and the carb is a vacuum secondary with lemans type bowls. The carb is listed in the holley spec manual as a 1965 hemi nascar. The intake looks just like the later crate hemi single carb intake but is made from mag.
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I forgot to mention the car in the picture for best appearing had an AAR hood on it. A picture is always worth a 1000 words.
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I have an original nascar short track intake and carb. The intake is a dual plane type and the carb is a vacuum secondary with lemans type bowls. The carb is listed in the holley spec manual as a 1965 hemi nascar. The intake looks just like the later crate hemi single carb intake but is made from mag.
I stand corrected....Its possable the 3 barrel carb was a 1964 piece and not a 1965 or was there a difference in the short track combo vs the Daytona (long track) version ?? The 3 barrel Holley was also a vacuum seconday 850 (or 950?) CFM carb. We ran one on a bracket car back in the stone age. I will look it up when I can find the paper work I have stored away.

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Old 06-24-2009, 09:53 AM   #8
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I had a semi factory deal (had to buy the car but everything else was free) in 1971 along with Gene Collins on a Dodge Challenger and it came with a 383 and a shaker hood like Dave Boertmans Rod Shop car. The word as I heard it later that year is the shaker hoods became hard to get and several Challengers came thru with the T/A hood. Never saw one until many years later though. I never heard anything on the 'Cudas with the AAR hood. Its no different than the .527 cam on the 428 CJ's or anything else that is allowed these days. NHRA allowed the hoods years ago so they are allowed to run them. Not much different than Edelbrock heads on 396 Camaros and 390/428/427 Fords. Not to mention the NASCAR Hemi. Its not what is stock....its what is allowed these days is all that counts. The single 4 Hemi had a low rise bath tub shaped intake manifold with a 3 barrel carb (remember those?). I have the numbers at home but good luck in ever finding the correct pieces. .

The precident was set a long time ago for the T/A hood on the hemi challenger....see page 742 on the TVD thread, it shows a hemi challenger racing in the days of super tricks with a T/A hood.

If Fords can run alum. heads on cars that never had alum then why can't I run alum Indy heads on my Max Wedge? If I change it over to SS can I run the indy's and their new inline rat roaster style intake on the Max, they look very much like SS/AH manifolds?

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The precident was set a long time ago for the T/A hood on the hemi challenger....see page 742 on the TVD thread, it shows a hemi challenger racing in the days of super tricks with a T/A hood.

If Fords can run alum. heads on cars that never had alum then why can't I run alum Indy heads on my Max Wedge? If I change it over to SS can I run the indy's and their new inline rat roaster style intake on the Max, they look very much like SS/AH manifolds?

Jim R
That would be nice Jim. If it raised the HP factor on the Max they could run in SS/CA which would be a great class for these cars and allow them to run a head design that wasn't 48 years old, Paul.
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