AA/SA @ Norwalk OH

RJ · 06-21-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hill

RJ it was also a six barrel option and a four barrel option when the shaker was orded but was out of stock, but agred it was mostly instaled with the 340 six barel. Just like the 1998 LT1 cars.

I still think it will be the crate motor Hemi vs the max wedge with the '64 car with the win.

Larry

OK, thanks for the explanation. I'd just never seen one, was it also a 4 bbl. option if shakers were out in 1970?, and how does it work compared to the shaker?

David Barton · 06-21-2009, 02:35 PM

Are all of them running in AA/SA for sure? I thought Shaul was entered in A/SA. I hope he runs in AA/SA! I like the pressure. I guess I'll have to remove all of the paper weights from the trunk.

And how about Ken? Are you going Ken? I didn't catch up with you at Atco to find out how you ran. Hope to see you there.

Ken Miele · 06-21-2009, 02:57 PM

David,

I will be there, but not sure how well I will run. The engine problems are behind me I hope, but now I can't hook the dam thing. I wish we would have got one more run.

I think John will be running A/SA, but it would be cool to see him in AA.

I was thinking how cool it would be to have a AA challenge at Indy this year. Maybe we can get some feed back from other AA's and see if we could put something together.

David, I don't know about your car, but my paper car can give nasty paper cuts. I think I will have to put caution signs on the fenders.

hadtobethere · 06-21-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Miele

I was thinking how cool it would be to have a AA challenge at Indy this year. Maybe we can get some feed back from other AA's and see if we could put something together.

...08' Cobra Jets got your ears on?....paper Mopars / paper Shelbys / 08 Cobras......sorry, you GM guys got no paper cars

David Barton · 06-21-2009, 06:52 PM

Ken,
I agree, that would be really cool. How many cars normally show in AA/SA? And how many A/SA cars would make the jump into AA/SA? Then the next question would be what about the 4-speed guys? I'm sure that will come up too. NHRA would never allow it at Indy but it would be a good thought for future shootouts. Can't leave them out!

The biggest thing that might scare some people away would be the fear of not qualifying for the bracket race since the index is so steep.

If people are into having a big shootout I will call our vendors to see what they can throw into the pot. Lets try to get something happening.

Paper Boy

David Barton · 06-21-2009, 07:01 PM

I wasn't even born yet but I was told that only Challenger's came with those hoods.

The Paper Shredder might be illegal.

JHeath · 06-21-2009, 07:15 PM

So Larry, your car is a "paper car" also?

You've been crying about these so called "paper cars" for how many years now? Back in 2001, you were complaining about Lance Line and Matt Morgan. Then you started on Bill Hawk and Ken Miele, and now apparently Barton's car is a paper tiger too.

Here's a question. How many of these "paper cars" have deprived you of a class win?
Or, how many of these "paper cars" have prevented you from winning a national event?

Maybe you should worry about your own stuff instead of crying about three cars in the entire country.

bill dedman · 06-21-2009, 07:25 PM

Paper cars are not the problem; bogus HP factors are the problem.

NHRA added HP to the "paper" NASCAR Hemi before it ever hit the track, but these 2008 Mustangs with a 425HP factor and a 700+HP engine continue, unabated (one was the #1 qualifier at the Div V Points race this weekend.)

I can't IMAGINE that anybody with anything BUT one of those blown, injected, 4-valve Mustangs thinks they have a prayer in AA/SA (or, stick) if they choose to show up for a Class elimination, or "shootout."

At 140+ MPH, they're sure gonna be hard to stay ahead of... no matter how "soft" they leave.

George Fitzpatrick · 06-22-2009, 11:02 AM

Well now I know why I haven’t been getting my newspaper. The “paper boy” is out drag racing. Wow what would that combo run with the cross ram? Hey let’s see if we can get NHRA to approve that. It’s only paper Right? On serious note, we all follow the rules that are given to us. That’s why my cuda sits in garage (3825 LBS A/SA) .

Evan Smith · 06-22-2009, 07:32 AM

Serious question:

Quite a few Mopar guys have shown me "paperwork" on this T/A hood deal, but nothing direct from Chrysler. How come none of the top-of-the-line diecast companies, which go to great lengths to re-create muscle cars accurately, ever build a Hemi or 440x6 Challenger with a T/A hood? And How come you never see one restored that way at a car show or on Barrett-Jackson?

Also, was the AAR hood an option too on a 440, because I've seen that deal too?

06-21-2009, 02:35 PM	#2
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH Are all of them running in AA/SA for sure? I thought Shaul was entered in A/SA. I hope he runs in AA/SA! I like the pressure. I guess I'll have to remove all of the paper weights from the trunk. And how about Ken? Are you going Ken? I didn't catch up with you at Atco to find out how you ran. Hope to see you there.

06-21-2009, 02:57 PM	#3
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 461 Liked 16,562 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH David, I will be there, but not sure how well I will run. The engine problems are behind me I hope, but now I can't hook the dam thing. I wish we would have got one more run. I think John will be running A/SA, but it would be cool to see him in AA. I was thinking how cool it would be to have a AA challenge at Indy this year. Maybe we can get some feed back from other AA's and see if we could put something together. David, I don't know about your car, but my paper car can give nasty paper cuts. I think I will have to put caution signs on the fenders.

06-21-2009, 06:52 PM	#5
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH Ken, I agree, that would be really cool. How many cars normally show in AA/SA? And how many A/SA cars would make the jump into AA/SA? Then the next question would be what about the 4-speed guys? I'm sure that will come up too. NHRA would never allow it at Indy but it would be a good thought for future shootouts. Can't leave them out! The biggest thing that might scare some people away would be the fear of not qualifying for the bracket race since the index is so steep. If people are into having a big shootout I will call our vendors to see what they can throw into the pot. Lets try to get something happening. Paper Boy Last edited by David Barton; 06-21-2009 at 06:55 PM.

06-21-2009, 07:01 PM	#6
David Barton Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 199 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH I wasn't even born yet but I was told that only Challenger's came with those hoods. The Paper Shredder might be illegal.

06-21-2009, 07:15 PM	#7
JHeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 786 Likes: 2,876 Liked 370 Times in 101 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH So Larry, your car is a "paper car" also? You've been crying about these so called "paper cars" for how many years now? Back in 2001, you were complaining about Lance Line and Matt Morgan. Then you started on Bill Hawk and Ken Miele, and now apparently Barton's car is a paper tiger too. Here's a question. How many of these "paper cars" have deprived you of a class win? Or, how many of these "paper cars" have prevented you from winning a national event? Maybe you should worry about your own stuff instead of crying about three cars in the entire country. __________________ Jerry Heath I/S '93 Cobra FS/J 2010 Mustang "Ebay CJ"

06-21-2009, 07:25 PM	#8
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH Paper cars are not the problem; bogus HP factors are the problem. NHRA added HP to the "paper" NASCAR Hemi before it ever hit the track, but these 2008 Mustangs with a 425HP factor and a 700+HP engine continue, unabated (one was the #1 qualifier at the Div V Points race this weekend.) I can't IMAGINE that anybody with anything BUT one of those blown, injected, 4-valve Mustangs thinks they have a prayer in AA/SA (or, stick) if they choose to show up for a Class elimination, or "shootout." At 140+ MPH, they're sure gonna be hard to stay ahead of... no matter how "soft" they leave. __________________ Bill

06-22-2009, 11:02 AM	#9
George Fitzpatrick Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Babylon, NY Posts: 344 Likes: 119 Liked 94 Times in 24 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH Well now I know why I haven’t been getting my newspaper. The “paper boy” is out drag racing. Wow what would that combo run with the cross ram? Hey let’s see if we can get NHRA to approve that. It’s only paper Right? On serious note, we all follow the rules that are given to us. That’s why my cuda sits in garage (3825 LBS A/SA) . __________________ George Fitzpatrick 426 HEMI STK, SS

06-22-2009, 07:32 AM	#10
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: AA/SA @ Norwalk OH Serious question: Quite a few Mopar guys have shown me "paperwork" on this T/A hood deal, but nothing direct from Chrysler. How come none of the top-of-the-line diecast companies, which go to great lengths to re-create muscle cars accurately, ever build a Hemi or 440x6 Challenger with a T/A hood? And How come you never see one restored that way at a car show or on Barrett-Jackson? Also, was the AAR hood an option too on a 440, because I've seen that deal too? __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK