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[bill dedman]

Ed said: "Bill,maybe I'm crazy but I see no reason to make things anymore complicated than they already are."

I agree; they're plenty complicated, now.

Having said that I must ask, in what way would this complicate ANYTHING insofar as what the driving experience is?

What would you do differently? What would a AA car do differently???

Tell me; I may be missing something here...

If racing, using this system is going to be more complicated, I'd like to know what about it complicates ANYTHING??????

I'm serious. Explain the "complication" to me, please.

Thanks for hanging in there and reading all that crap I wrote.... but, if you think that racing under this system is going to be ONE IOTA more complicated than what we have now, then ~I~ don't understand it, myself.... 'cause I sure can't see it.

What it be?????????

Bill

[bill dedman]

Gary,

Don't get your hopes up; this change would never, ever, net NHRA one red cent, and it would cost money for the changeover software, so I think it chances of its ever seeing the light of day are slim-to-none.

I've tried to get the racers on this board to support this idea for years, and I can't even get the guys with
S-L-O-W cars to agree that it's going to be beneficial, and they're the ones getting screwed the most with the current system.

Most of the racers who are against this idea, I am convinced, don't understand how it works.

I am sure that NHRA has no interest in making this change. It's such a simple idea; if they wanted it changed, it would have been changed years ago.

But, thanks for your interest and kind words.

Bill

[Jack McCarthy]

here's my .02 cents worth (and i should know)

i knew the rule when i chose my class / car (28 years ago)
i know i have a disadvantage on the redlight rule

i used to have advantage on class winner money ( until i was enhanced)
i now have another disadvantage on the line - two steps (some enhancement relief last year)

however... i still have advantages

i enjoy a good slick track, especially when paired with a-b-c radial car
i still spend less than an a--b-c car (but still way too much... enhance enhance enhance)
i never hit the wheelie bars and spin
i put up wiuth less assholes...the guys who race in o- w are a much nicer breed

captain
i agree with billy... lose the reaction times & incrementals

[Tony Janes]

I agree with Ed and Jack on the red light situation. It has been that way since I have been racing on the tree and I can live with it.

[Casey Miles]

Our sport has evolved, they have now Cross Talk installed into the most tracks, so why not No Red until both leave. This way the playing field evens out alot more then you think. Why do you think that all the better bracket racers want the faster cars, so that the slower car makes the first mistake. It's always easier being the faster car, you can judge the finish line easier passing someone rather then being passed. If you take out the RED on the first car then it takes out some of the advantage of the faster car. As a bracket racer and Stock racer, I would welcome the NO RED.
Just my view on the subject. Another part of this is to take out reaction times in time runs, and in eliminations just put in the difference of the reaction times so that they can be figured out by the contestants.
Casey Miles
248H

[bill dedman]

Tony Janes said, "I can live with it."

Tony, everybody's been "living with it" (except the A cars, and now they have the same problem when running a AA car, finally), for 46 years...

But we no longer would have to "live with it" if they'd fix it, which they now can do at very little expense, and in a way that affects nobody's driving style in ANY WAY.

Like I said, I can't see any logical reason not to do it.

RE: " I can live with it." is very considerate of you, but what have you done to deserve second-class status in this matter? Nothing I can see would make "living with it" a fair treatment for you. You deserve the same treatment that the guy in the other lane gets, regardless of class or dial-in.

Right now, you don't always get it.

THAT's what I'd like to see fixed.

Bill

[Harry 6674]

I think a rule change is in order, shouldn't be tough for NHRA@IHRA to implement it. How ever at bracket races I,ve had to give cars up to a 10 second spot. I'll bet alot of you have given more than that and when he leaves and you don't see your win light come on and you sit and wait it always screws with my rt. Usually red. I think my attention span is a little short.

[bill dedman]

Ed,

I asked you to explain your comment, " Bill,maybe I'm crazy but I see no reason to make things anymore complicated than they already are." but, I didn't see an explanation as to how this new system of operation would "complicate" anything.

What am I missing here? Nobody's even going to know it's in place unless somebody red lights, and then it's no more complicated than it's EVER been... somebody goes home.

Did I overlook something?

Bill

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

here's my .02 cents worth (and i should know)

i knew the rule when i chose my class / car (28 years ago)
i know i have a disadvantage on the redlight rule

i used to have advantage on class winner money ( until i was enhanced)
i now have another disadvantage on the line - two steps (some enhancement relief last year)

however... i still have advantages

i enjoy a good slick track, especially when paired with a-b-c radial car
i still spend less than an a--b-c car (but still way too much... enhance enhance enhance)
i never hit the wheelie bars and spin
i put up wiuth less assholes...the guys who race in o- w are a much nicer breed

captain
i agree with billy... lose the reaction times & incrementals

You're 101% correct Jack,as usual.And congratulations on the record with the batcar.

Ed
Slug Racer