nhra increase fees explained

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

I am definately not a fan of the pros but they in fact do pay.Not entry fees but they pay for S/Fage used by their equiptment at the races.They also kick back on merchandise sales.Remember when sportsmen racers could put up shirts for sale?NHRA is the benefactor for all aspects.I don't begrudge them from making a buck but just how much juice can you squeeze from an orange?

Ed F.

Maybe they can find a way to fine Sorenson for a liquid spill in St.Loo.

Ed,

Maybe they do pay, but they don't pay enough...at least not in comparison to us, and we don't have their mega budgets to work with...I'm living proof of that as this time last year I participated in 3div's, and one nat., plus one local race...as opposed to just going to the Pacific Sportsnats so far this year, and those price increases certainly aren't helping the matter one bit. Furthermore, to the guy in Div. 3 who said he hasn't noticed a dramatic change in car counts at races he's been to, you should've been out here at that race...all of the fields were dramatically smaller than their quotas allowed, and even smaller than last years race (with higher fuel prices)!!!

Last year 75 Stockers, this year 56...Last year 54 Super Stockers, this year 44...Last year 18 Comp. cars, this year 11...need I say more???

It kind of reminds me of the middle class tax payer as opposed to the wealthy people...I believe I heard it on the radio a couple months back...Warren Buffets receptionist pays more taxes than he does, and he's the boss!!?? Go figure....

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Ed,

Maybe they do pay, but they don't pay enough...at least not in comparison to us, and we don't have their mega budgets to work with...I'm living proof of that as this time last year I participated in 3div's, and one nat., plus one local race...as opposed to just going to the Pacific Sportsnats so far this year, and those price increases certainly aren't helping the matter one bit. Furthermore, to the guy in Div. 3 who said he hasn't noticed a dramatic change in car counts at races he's been to, you should've been out here at that race...all of the fields were dramatically smaller than their quotas allowed, and even smaller than last years race (with higher fuel prices)!!!

Last year 75 Stockers, this year 56...Last year 54 Super Stockers, this year 44...Last year 18 Comp. cars, this year 11...need I say more???

It kind of reminds me of the middle class tax payer as opposed to the wealthy people...I believe I heard it on the radio a couple months back...Warren Buffets receptionist pays more taxes than he does, and he's the boss!!?? Go figure....

You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

Ed F.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

Ed F.

Well said Ed, and I couldn't agree more with you on this one, because that's the sad ugly truth...

[Casey Miles]

I'm not missing the point on free passes, they do it down here at PBIR, free pass, pay for parking. I want the tracks to be profitable and keep their doors open. The only problem, why does the racer have to be the wall bearing the load. At Moroso's 5 day races, you could just about count the paying spectators on your hands and toes, it didn't effect the race. We all know that the spectators, if the show up or not, it isn't going to effect the purse or the entry fee. Did anyone get a rebate because they sold alot of parking places, I'm sure not! The point is towards NHRA and not the local track operator, we need the tracks to stay open and I support my local track more now then when I was going to divisional points races.

Casey Miles
248H

[Michael Pliska]

Did everyone else get the same form letter email reply? I got the same one as above, with a final "customized" line added at the bottom.

Regards,

[chevy620]

Seems sad to me that they can just raise prices to sportsman racers, do you think the "Sportsman Committees" were asked about it?

I just got my National Event entry form for Topeka. $60.00 Insurance Surcharge??? Are you kidding me. 500 cars x $60.00= $30,000.00 in "Supplemental Insurance Surcharges"??????????? WOW! I cannot imaging the entire insurance premium for a National Event is much more than $7 to $10K Max. It seems with payouts FROZEN, contingency payouts slipping to 50% of a couple years ago and their premier facility at Indy looking like a "worn-out *****" with bad roads, loose gravel everywhere andgrass parking that is so rutted you can barely even get on the grass..........
they would want new customers, not chase the existing one off?

But then again, their Pres makes $700K a year, what the heck do I know.

Jok

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You could probably retire very comfortably on what NHRA gets for pit parking and shirt sales.It's not chump change.Irregardless we are getting hosed but I've resigned myself to the fact that NHRA is in charge and no matter what we do short of just quitting willchange the situation.
All of the S/SS can't agree on ANYTHING.We all have our own opinions and agendas.Gee sort of like every day life.
I don't have the $$$ to race much this year and I really don't care.

Ed F.

Ed,

I have to correct myself for yesterdays reply...I agree with everything you said, except the "I really don't care" part of it, because if I didn't care then I would've stayed back in Denver (with the snow, the cold, and the enormously long tows that Colorado class racers have to make to get to their non-Bandimere Speedway divisionals, nationals, and even national open races!!!

I moved to Az., to race more (not less), and this stinking economy is getting to be such that I'm seriously pending another move either to Div. 6 (where divisionals are even closer to home, and they have a national open points series as well), or back to Denver...which I'll only do as a last resort, because I don't have Burton/Hagberg/Cotten kind of money! I wonder if that's part of the reason Glenn Person moved away from Mesa, Az. back to Canada also???

Sitting at home, and reading in the dragster mags of others doing what I moved away from my (now grown) children & family to pursue (becoming one of the most successful fwd stocker racers ever, and the first to win multiple national/divisional events, or even becoming the first fwd stocker racer to win a national/divisional event this century--which I came close to doing one of the two 3x's... from the '06 Mile Highs, to the '08 LODRS D7 R1 race here in Chandler, Az.).

Now that I missed my home state races, I may join you in not caring about racing this year (at least for a points chase, like last year), but I'll do my darndest to be sure that wherever I'm living post 09/09, that I'll be plotting to get back into the championship points chase next year!!!Wish me well please Ed, because I need it???

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Ed,

I have to correct myself for yesterdays reply...I agree with everything you said, except the "I really don't care" part of it, because if I didn't care then I would've stayed back in Denver (with the snow, the cold, and the enormously long tows that Colorado class racers have to make to get to their non-Bandimere Speedway divisionals, nationals, and even national open races!!! I moved to Az., to race more (not less), and this stinking economy is getting to be such that I'm seriously pending another move (either to Div. 6 where divisionals are even closer to home, and they have a national open points series as well, or back to Denver...which I'll only do as a last resort, because I don't have Burton/Hagberg/Johnson kind of money! Wish me well, because I need it???

If moving Is'nt a problem then move to either Div.1 or 2.Either one has a multitude of tracks (Div 2gives
you an IHRA option,a little milder weather too).There,open and shut case.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

If moving Is'nt a problem then move to either Div.1 or 2.Either one has a multitude of tracks (Div 2gives
you an IHRA option,a little milder weather too).There,open and shut case.

I wish it was that cut and dry of an option, but the company I work for is no closer to any of those areas than the state of Illinois. Now that would be an option to ponder...Div 3 & the IHRA racing from that area...as the pop song said, "things that make you go hmmm". Now that I'm soon to be 51 (and being a parts delivery driver), most of my works competition is younger than I...thus age discrimination has to be considered as well as starting over anew, which after investing 6.5yrs of my working life into my present job, I'm not willing (nor do I think it's a good ideal) to start over again (especially since I'm one of the alpha drivers, and I get to enjoy 3wks of paid time off for my racing!).

Btw Ed, you call Hurricane season (esp. in Fl.) "a little milder weather"? Now that's funny...R.O.L.O.L.!!!