New Camaros are in the showrooms - Page 5

bill dedman · 04-30-2009, 10:14 PM

Good post, Clay. So, one reason the RX-8 only weighs 3,060 is that it has aluminum body panels.

If they can do it, why can't the BIG THREE? The RX-8 isn't a high dollar car.

You said:"although the FD body is better for that."

What is the "FD body?" My head is pretty thick.... 'scuse me.

Bill

Jeff Lee · 04-30-2009, 10:58 PM

Based on the press release pictures, I really thought I would like this new Camaro. Saw my first real one tonight. It was in the opposite lane facing me with both of us at a red light. It was the color I would probably choose, yellow. It looked "pudgy" or something. I hate to follow the lead here but yea, maybe it was cartoony. So I flipped a u-turn to get a better look at it. This one had a sunroof and the driver definetly looked cramed in there. This was a solid yellow with no stripes or graphics. I think the biggest problem I had was with the aero-rocker moldings. I do think with race rubber & graphics it will look good on the track.
At first I didn't even like the new Challenger. I didn't like the slab siding. It's grown on me and a little graphics go a long way on the Challenger.
So far the Mustang & Shelby have the least amount of visual objections to me. I think it has the right proportions and lines.

denny harvey · 05-01-2009, 10:16 AM

i dont think any of the 3 will ever be a classic.they all look like they have the same mother..they will never be around like the first gen cars.factory hipe and the net are keeping them going ,5 years from now no one will care,i dont now..

Clay Arnett · 05-01-2009, 02:16 PM

Bill, Your right they could have used lighter weight materials. GM does this with the Corvette and it would have been nice if they translated that over to the Camaro.

The FD is the 92-02 RX-7 body. This car is considered a better chassis than the new RX-8 and a LS engine with the tremec 6 speed fits perfect. It's also a lighter car than the RX-8. Here is a link to a company that make a complete conversion package.

http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/s-1-m...-fd-93-99.aspx

Chipper Chapman · 05-01-2009, 04:46 PM

I beleive they should go back to checking off the options you want, not so many packages, would probably make them a bunch cheaper and a better sell.

RJ · 05-01-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom P

the salesman said they are only selling V6's for the first few months.

There are some V8's out this way, Camaro #01 is owned by Rick Hendrick and it has a LS3.

bill dedman · 05-01-2009, 07:28 PM

Thanks, Clay. I'm not too swift when it comes to the letters/numbers game that involves foreign cars.

I just look at a '65 Mustang, and a '65 Barracuda and wonder what justifies the addition of at LEAST 800 pounds of weight to those cars in the 2009-2010 versions, Camaro included. Those cars had a few aluminum parts (automatic transmissions, mainly), but everything else was cast iron and steel and the both came in at very close to 3,000 pounds, curb weight.

Think about it.... EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS (and in some cases, more.) And, the cars are basically the same size... or, should be if they're not. I don't remember anybody not buying a new Mustang because it was too small.

Weight is a very important element in the performance makeup of any car; particularly, these.

Can you IMAGINE how an SRT-8 Hemi would motivate a 3,000-pound '65 Barracuda??? Instant low- 12's (maybe better) on the street.

What a shame...

blkjack · 05-02-2009, 07:35 PM

.......Who's ugly now?

dartman · 05-02-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkjack

.......who's ugly now?

motor trend or chevy trend. Maybe they should of used the 425hp srt and not 376hp rt.one with more power and better brakes.will it is chevy trend.

denny harvey · 05-03-2009, 08:35 AM

motor trend hates all usa built cars ,have you ever read it ? this was a performance car price COMPARABLE between cars in the same price range.im sure the zr1 vette and viper are faster then all the ones tested ,but at tree times the price.

04-30-2009, 10:14 PM	#41
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Good post, Clay. So, one reason the RX-8 only weighs 3,060 is that it has aluminum body panels. If they can do it, why can't the BIG THREE? The RX-8 isn't a high dollar car. You said:"although the FD body is better for that." What is the "FD body?" My head is pretty thick.... 'scuse me. Bill __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-30-2009 at 10:19 PM.

04-30-2009, 10:58 PM	#42
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Based on the press release pictures, I really thought I would like this new Camaro. Saw my first real one tonight. It was in the opposite lane facing me with both of us at a red light. It was the color I would probably choose, yellow. It looked "pudgy" or something. I hate to follow the lead here but yea, maybe it was cartoony. So I flipped a u-turn to get a better look at it. This one had a sunroof and the driver definetly looked cramed in there. This was a solid yellow with no stripes or graphics. I think the biggest problem I had was with the aero-rocker moldings. I do think with race rubber & graphics it will look good on the track. At first I didn't even like the new Challenger. I didn't like the slab siding. It's grown on me and a little graphics go a long way on the Challenger. So far the Mustang & Shelby have the least amount of visual objections to me. I think it has the right proportions and lines. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 05-01-2009 at 12:24 AM.

05-01-2009, 10:16 AM	#43
denny harvey Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pataskala ohio Posts: 132 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms i dont think any of the 3 will ever be a classic.they all look like they have the same mother..they will never be around like the first gen cars.factory hipe and the net are keeping them going ,5 years from now no one will care,i dont now..

05-01-2009, 02:16 PM	#44
Clay Arnett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hartsville, IN Posts: 128 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Bill, Your right they could have used lighter weight materials. GM does this with the Corvette and it would have been nice if they translated that over to the Camaro. The FD is the 92-02 RX-7 body. This car is considered a better chassis than the new RX-8 and a LS engine with the tremec 6 speed fits perfect. It's also a lighter car than the RX-8. Here is a link to a company that make a complete conversion package. http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/s-1-m...-fd-93-99.aspx

05-01-2009, 04:46 PM	#45
Chipper Chapman Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belmont N.S. Canada Posts: 473 Likes: 246 Liked 166 Times in 71 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms I beleive they should go back to checking off the options you want, not so many packages, would probably make them a bunch cheaper and a better sell.

05-01-2009, 07:28 PM	#47
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Thanks, Clay. I'm not too swift when it comes to the letters/numbers game that involves foreign cars. I just look at a '65 Mustang, and a '65 Barracuda and wonder what justifies the addition of at LEAST 800 pounds of weight to those cars in the 2009-2010 versions, Camaro included. Those cars had a few aluminum parts (automatic transmissions, mainly), but everything else was cast iron and steel and the both came in at very close to 3,000 pounds, curb weight. Think about it.... EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS (and in some cases, more.) And, the cars are basically the same size... or, should be if they're not. I don't remember anybody not buying a new Mustang because it was too small. Weight is a very important element in the performance makeup of any car; particularly, these. Can you IMAGINE how an SRT-8 Hemi would motivate a 3,000-pound '65 Barracuda??? Instant low- 12's (maybe better) on the street. What a shame... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 05-01-2009 at 10:55 PM.

05-02-2009, 07:35 PM	#48
blkjack Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Belle Vernon, PA Posts: 288 Likes: 26 Liked 55 Times in 19 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms .......Who's ugly now?

05-03-2009, 08:35 AM	#50
denny harvey Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pataskala ohio Posts: 132 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms motor trend hates all usa built cars ,have you ever read it ? this was a performance car price COMPARABLE between cars in the same price range.im sure the zr1 vette and viper are faster then all the ones tested ,but at tree times the price.