Ron Ortiz

bill dedman · 05-02-2009, 10:57 PM

Ron,

With all due respect, and in deference to your multi-faceted tribulations in a failed attempt to get the Catty's legal status adjudicated to your satisfaction, I must point out that lawyers are a busy lot, and believe it or NOT, there is more going on in the NHRA these days than just U/SA.

There's Boise, for example. Focus your gaze, if you will, please, on the legal ramifications of something as mundane as a few quarts of radiator water, and its whereabouts at any particular time (in the engine, or on the ground.) You wouldn't think that an everyday occurrence such as the simple act of twisting the handle on a draincock could engender far-reaching decisions by NHRA Tech, but it appears that the whole concept of ethical racer-conduct, and NHRA's perception, thereof, might in this case, form the basis for a decision at Glendora on Monday morning that could alter the face of A/SA and B/SA competition for a long time.

Or, not.

Our lawfirm has no choice but to to stay on top of such issues, and having been drawn into the whirlwind\melee that surrounds this bizarre debacle, has demanded 100-percent of our time.... and probably will, at least until Monday, when the chickens come home to roost. The U/SA issues are important to us as always, and will continue to be, but for the moment, the secretarial pool is awash in rumor and innuendo about 396's with aluminum heads, 427 horsepower factors, rulebook language and the scrutiny thereof, and the way in which NHRA regards long-term racers who do questionable things.

To make a long story short... well, it's too late. It's just a long story. Live with it.

Sorry, but there's a totem pole at every law office; this one's no exception and just as "U" is near the end of the alphabet, you can guess where it is located on this totem pole in our offices... at this time.

THAT COULD CHANGE!!!

If the issues surrounding the Catty's "solar system disqualification" look to our research team that there might be wiggle room for some creative thinking regarding potential loopholes, we might be able to break loose from this legal maze that is tying up all our resources in Boise, and delve into the vagaries of the pertinent rules surrounding your latest purchase from Mr. Shaw. Stranger things have happened (remember the 2bbl/4bbl 260 Olds fiasco?)

But, you know what they say about lawyers...

Blingmaster · 05-03-2009, 07:40 PM

I now see how this is gonna work..The pup said the 455/260 crankshaft would not balance you did not have anything to do with that did you Ron. Now he says tranny needs to be gone through..and rear end needs bearings...slicks are bald and gas tank dry....And social security is not getting a cost of living raise in2010. I do not know how much stress i can take ...Is the sympathy card working..,..DD

Ron Ortiz · 05-20-2009, 04:19 PM

Well it has been some time since this thread has appeared, but the time has come for responses to all those that have posted. Especially since the challenge (throw down) is coming this week end.

First in order is Mr. Dedman and his law firms wonderful and thorough response. After talking to my people and other significant authorities from locations from "not around here" who cannot be named due to their unacceptance in a human society, we have reached a conclusion that some facts seem to be altered or misunderstood. First and foremost the vehicle (Catty) that I had purchased is from Mr. Bob of another solar system, not the local Bob Shaw who finds great combos. The Catty has been deemed unacceptable per NHRA due to it not being an American production, I will be contacting your research department in the near future for some "creative thinking".

Secondly, the so called importance of the Boise incident appears to be anti climatic as nothing has been done and seems to be dragging out it's play time. Same as all the other fiascos concerning the A thru C classes.

And lastly, though the "U" is on the end of the alphabet and at times on the totem pole of importance, it none the less has the unique distinction of being the most controversial class with the fastest under the index qualifers for the longest period of time. Examples are Shaw, Dennis, MacKay, Senia, etc. But most importantly, it is the only class in NHRA / IHRA that represents the USA

Mike Carr, I wish also that you lived closer. Come on down the weather is fine.

Doug Frazier and Jim Wahl, I was in need of either a 340 or 360 to put in my tow car to get the wagon there.

J Slane, I am looking foward to meeting you but the idea of you covering Gator Boy's back is absurd. Have you seen the size of that thing and all that growth on it.

Jack, do I go around and tell others about any little speed secrets that you tell me about. No. Then what gives you the right to let everybody know about the wrapping of headers with beer cans allowing a small amount of air into the inductions system creating a venturi effect due to different air pressures resulting in quicker times. Thanks alot. I will be more discreet in our future conversations. But the bright side of it all is that I have now discovered the 24 can case is a much better deal than the 12 pack repair kit.

And finally the individual that started this thing, The Blingmaster. No I do not have any meds, I do not need them, there are things on this planet that I have discovered that are truly enjoyable, beer comes to mind, and

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So I will see you all this week in sunny Lakeland (50% chance of rain) for a great time. Do not know if I'm ready for you Mr. Simpathy, as I do not know how fast you are. But we have not done anything to the wagon since Belle Rose which makes it unpredictable.

I believe that there will be about 4 or 5 U/SA's there with Daran trying out his new combo, which should be really fast, and Louie debuting his combo, and hopefully Sid Tolson with Daran's old Olds. Sound like alot of fun.

The throw down has been made by Blingmaster. The Cracked Granite wagon will be there.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA you have to read between the lines

Billy Nees · 05-20-2009, 07:03 PM

Ortiz, go back to your home planet Zorkon and bring Obama with you!

Blingmaster · 05-20-2009, 07:27 PM

Billy What do you have against Zorkon? Mr. Ortiz it seems that gator boy is talking trash about a 2bbl 283 for U/SA....i TRIED TO INFORM HIM that what is the challenge of running a chevy combination that has been flogged for over 50 years...When I was a boy I drove chevy's too. But now that WE have grown up we feed on the challenges of brand X and Y. I was asked a question today Why would anyone want to drive a U/SA combo. Little do they know you can easily throw down 1/2 a six pack between high gear and the traps...How dumb can they be no A/SA car could do that. Plus we get to look at the ladies in the grandstands longer.Plus we usually have enough money after the races for Macdonlds.Plus no other class represents United States Of America any better......Do not be too concerned about Blingmaster new motor sounds like I could drive to Alaska and get 35 mpg getting there..It did drive into the trailer under it's own power .....Pup may not have his new ride ready he has done 4 motors 3 transmissions
in last week to get ready for lakeland....Never sell Daran short...

Ron Ortiz · 05-20-2009, 08:40 PM

Billy, it is Gortzon, and I will buy you a drink, or Obama my own.
Wish you were here. You have'nt got any crankier than the last time I saw you.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA time is space occupied

Jack McCarthy · 05-21-2009, 12:03 PM

while ya'll are playing im gonna be working...
trying the 5:86 at track on friday... might set the record saturday (if maple grove aint too fast) its hard to compete with ET's from mineshaft at bowling green so clayton will probably end up with it again...
sure wish that 273 would migrate outta division one to lets say INDY and see how she runs in REAL air.

anyway if ya wanna have a shootout later (in november i believe they said) let me know !

captain jack

and have fun !

05-02-2009, 10:57 PM	#1
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz Ron, With all due respect, and in deference to your multi-faceted tribulations in a failed attempt to get the Catty's legal status adjudicated to your satisfaction, I must point out that lawyers are a busy lot, and believe it or NOT, there is more going on in the NHRA these days than just U/SA. There's Boise, for example. Focus your gaze, if you will, please, on the legal ramifications of something as mundane as a few quarts of radiator water, and its whereabouts at any particular time (in the engine, or on the ground.) You wouldn't think that an everyday occurrence such as the simple act of twisting the handle on a draincock could engender far-reaching decisions by NHRA Tech, but it appears that the whole concept of ethical racer-conduct, and NHRA's perception, thereof, might in this case, form the basis for a decision at Glendora on Monday morning that could alter the face of A/SA and B/SA competition for a long time. Or, not. Our lawfirm has no choice but to to stay on top of such issues, and having been drawn into the whirlwind\melee that surrounds this bizarre debacle, has demanded 100-percent of our time.... and probably will, at least until Monday, when the chickens come home to roost. The U/SA issues are important to us as always, and will continue to be, but for the moment, the secretarial pool is awash in rumor and innuendo about 396's with aluminum heads, 427 horsepower factors, rulebook language and the scrutiny thereof, and the way in which NHRA regards long-term racers who do questionable things. To make a long story short... well, it's too late. It's just a long story. Live with it. Sorry, but there's a totem pole at every law office; this one's no exception and just as "U" is near the end of the alphabet, you can guess where it is located on this totem pole in our offices... at this time. THAT COULD CHANGE!!! If the issues surrounding the Catty's "solar system disqualification" look to our research team that there might be wiggle room for some creative thinking regarding potential loopholes, we might be able to break loose from this legal maze that is tying up all our resources in Boise, and delve into the vagaries of the pertinent rules surrounding your latest purchase from Mr. Shaw. Stranger things have happened (remember the 2bbl/4bbl 260 Olds fiasco?) But, you know what they say about lawyers... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 05-02-2009 at 11:03 PM.

05-03-2009, 07:40 PM	#2
Blingmaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: usa Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz I now see how this is gonna work..The pup said the 455/260 crankshaft would not balance you did not have anything to do with that did you Ron. Now he says tranny needs to be gone through..and rear end needs bearings...slicks are bald and gas tank dry....And social security is not getting a cost of living raise in2010. I do not know how much stress i can take ...Is the sympathy card working..,..DD Last edited by Blingmaster; 05-03-2009 at 07:44 PM.

05-20-2009, 04:19 PM	#3
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz Well it has been some time since this thread has appeared, but the time has come for responses to all those that have posted. Especially since the challenge (throw down) is coming this week end. First in order is Mr. Dedman and his law firms wonderful and thorough response. After talking to my people and other significant authorities from locations from "not around here" who cannot be named due to their unacceptance in a human society, we have reached a conclusion that some facts seem to be altered or misunderstood. First and foremost the vehicle (Catty) that I had purchased is from Mr. Bob of another solar system, not the local Bob Shaw who finds great combos. The Catty has been deemed unacceptable per NHRA due to it not being an American production, I will be contacting your research department in the near future for some "creative thinking". Secondly, the so called importance of the Boise incident appears to be anti climatic as nothing has been done and seems to be dragging out it's play time. Same as all the other fiascos concerning the A thru C classes. And lastly, though the "U" is on the end of the alphabet and at times on the totem pole of importance, it none the less has the unique distinction of being the most controversial class with the fastest under the index qualifers for the longest period of time. Examples are Shaw, Dennis, MacKay, Senia, etc. But most importantly, it is the only class in NHRA / IHRA that represents the USA Mike Carr, I wish also that you lived closer. Come on down the weather is fine. Doug Frazier and Jim Wahl, I was in need of either a 340 or 360 to put in my tow car to get the wagon there. J Slane, I am looking foward to meeting you but the idea of you covering Gator Boy's back is absurd. Have you seen the size of that thing and all that growth on it. Jack, do I go around and tell others about any little speed secrets that you tell me about. No. Then what gives you the right to let everybody know about the wrapping of headers with beer cans allowing a small amount of air into the inductions system creating a venturi effect due to different air pressures resulting in quicker times. Thanks alot. I will be more discreet in our future conversations. But the bright side of it all is that I have now discovered the 24 can case is a much better deal than the 12 pack repair kit. And finally the individual that started this thing, The Blingmaster. No I do not have any meds, I do not need them, there are things on this planet that I have discovered that are truly enjoyable, beer comes to mind, and and and and and. So I will see you all this week in sunny Lakeland (50% chance of rain) for a great time. Do not know if I'm ready for you Mr. Simpathy, as I do not know how fast you are. But we have not done anything to the wagon since Belle Rose which makes it unpredictable. I believe that there will be about 4 or 5 U/SA's there with Daran trying out his new combo, which should be really fast, and Louie debuting his combo, and hopefully Sid Tolson with Daran's old Olds. Sound like alot of fun. The throw down has been made by Blingmaster. The Cracked Granite wagon will be there. Ron Ortiz U/SA you have to read between the lines __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

05-20-2009, 07:03 PM	#4
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,494 Likes: 3,596 Liked 7,731 Times in 1,739 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz Ortiz, go back to your home planet Zorkon and bring Obama with you! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

05-20-2009, 07:27 PM	#5
Blingmaster Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: usa Posts: 83 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz Billy What do you have against Zorkon? Mr. Ortiz it seems that gator boy is talking trash about a 2bbl 283 for U/SA....i TRIED TO INFORM HIM that what is the challenge of running a chevy combination that has been flogged for over 50 years...When I was a boy I drove chevy's too. But now that WE have grown up we feed on the challenges of brand X and Y. I was asked a question today Why would anyone want to drive a U/SA combo. Little do they know you can easily throw down 1/2 a six pack between high gear and the traps...How dumb can they be no A/SA car could do that. Plus we get to look at the ladies in the grandstands longer.Plus we usually have enough money after the races for Macdonlds.Plus no other class represents United States Of America any better......Do not be too concerned about Blingmaster new motor sounds like I could drive to Alaska and get 35 mpg getting there..It did drive into the trailer under it's own power .....Pup may not have his new ride ready he has done 4 motors 3 transmissions in last week to get ready for lakeland....Never sell Daran short...

05-20-2009, 08:40 PM	#6
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz Billy, it is Gortzon, and I will buy you a drink, or Obama my own. Wish you were here. You have'nt got any crankier than the last time I saw you. Ron Ortiz U/SA time is space occupied __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

05-21-2009, 12:03 PM	#7
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 476 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Ron Ortiz while ya'll are playing im gonna be working... trying the 5:86 at track on friday... might set the record saturday (if maple grove aint too fast) its hard to compete with ET's from mineshaft at bowling green so clayton will probably end up with it again... sure wish that 273 would migrate outta division one to lets say INDY and see how she runs in REAL air. anyway if ya wanna have a shootout later (in november i believe they said) let me know ! captain jack and have fun ! __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"