New Camaros are in the showrooms - Page 2

Clay Arnett · 04-30-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunkster

The 2009 Kia Rio, at 2365 pounds, which has to meet the same standards, does not seem all that heavy.

I didn't say that all new cars were heavy. What I meant were all the cars in that class were heavy. A Kia Rio has the following size

Length 158.1 in
Width 66.7 in
Height 57.9 in

Camaro

Length 190.4 in ( 2' 8" longer)
Width 75.5 in (8" wider)
Height 54.2 in (4" shorter)

Also the Kia has a 1.6L 98 hp engine to the Camaro's 6.2L 426hp engine.
Someone mentioned the RX-8 and yes it is lighter as well. RX-8 is a slightly smaller car but it also has aluminum body panels. It has a carbon fiber driveshaft as well. Take that rotary out and put a LS in there and you got a nice piece although the FD body is better for that.

That being said I do think they could have done a much better job with weight reduction. The Corvette is a good example. It is a very light car but with this lighter weight also comes a bigger price.

Dave Turner · 04-30-2009, 07:48 PM

I saw one on the way home tonight; red with RS badges - dual exhaust. No way to tell what was under the hood.

bill dedman · 04-30-2009, 10:14 PM

Good post, Clay. So, one reason the RX-8 only weighs 3,060 is that it has aluminum body panels.

If they can do it, why can't the BIG THREE? The RX-8 isn't a high dollar car.

You said:"although the FD body is better for that."

What is the "FD body?" My head is pretty thick.... 'scuse me.

Bill

Jeff Lee · 04-30-2009, 10:58 PM

Based on the press release pictures, I really thought I would like this new Camaro. Saw my first real one tonight. It was in the opposite lane facing me with both of us at a red light. It was the color I would probably choose, yellow. It looked "pudgy" or something. I hate to follow the lead here but yea, maybe it was cartoony. So I flipped a u-turn to get a better look at it. This one had a sunroof and the driver definetly looked cramed in there. This was a solid yellow with no stripes or graphics. I think the biggest problem I had was with the aero-rocker moldings. I do think with race rubber & graphics it will look good on the track.
At first I didn't even like the new Challenger. I didn't like the slab siding. It's grown on me and a little graphics go a long way on the Challenger.
So far the Mustang & Shelby have the least amount of visual objections to me. I think it has the right proportions and lines.

denny harvey · 05-01-2009, 10:16 AM

i dont think any of the 3 will ever be a classic.they all look like they have the same mother..they will never be around like the first gen cars.factory hipe and the net are keeping them going ,5 years from now no one will care,i dont now..

Clay Arnett · 05-01-2009, 02:16 PM

Bill, Your right they could have used lighter weight materials. GM does this with the Corvette and it would have been nice if they translated that over to the Camaro.

The FD is the 92-02 RX-7 body. This car is considered a better chassis than the new RX-8 and a LS engine with the tremec 6 speed fits perfect. It's also a lighter car than the RX-8. Here is a link to a company that make a complete conversion package.

http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/s-1-m...-fd-93-99.aspx

04-30-2009, 07:48 PM	#2
Dave Turner VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Schomberg, ON, Canada Posts: 1,222 Likes: 1,606 Liked 364 Times in 138 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms I saw one on the way home tonight; red with RS badges - dual exhaust. No way to tell what was under the hood. __________________ Dave Turner SS/GT #1153

04-30-2009, 10:14 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Good post, Clay. So, one reason the RX-8 only weighs 3,060 is that it has aluminum body panels. If they can do it, why can't the BIG THREE? The RX-8 isn't a high dollar car. You said:"although the FD body is better for that." What is the "FD body?" My head is pretty thick.... 'scuse me. Bill __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-30-2009 at 10:19 PM.

04-30-2009, 10:58 PM	#4
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Based on the press release pictures, I really thought I would like this new Camaro. Saw my first real one tonight. It was in the opposite lane facing me with both of us at a red light. It was the color I would probably choose, yellow. It looked "pudgy" or something. I hate to follow the lead here but yea, maybe it was cartoony. So I flipped a u-turn to get a better look at it. This one had a sunroof and the driver definetly looked cramed in there. This was a solid yellow with no stripes or graphics. I think the biggest problem I had was with the aero-rocker moldings. I do think with race rubber & graphics it will look good on the track. At first I didn't even like the new Challenger. I didn't like the slab siding. It's grown on me and a little graphics go a long way on the Challenger. So far the Mustang & Shelby have the least amount of visual objections to me. I think it has the right proportions and lines. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 05-01-2009 at 12:24 AM.

05-01-2009, 10:16 AM	#5
denny harvey Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pataskala ohio Posts: 132 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms i dont think any of the 3 will ever be a classic.they all look like they have the same mother..they will never be around like the first gen cars.factory hipe and the net are keeping them going ,5 years from now no one will care,i dont now..

05-01-2009, 02:16 PM	#6
Clay Arnett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hartsville, IN Posts: 128 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Bill, Your right they could have used lighter weight materials. GM does this with the Corvette and it would have been nice if they translated that over to the Camaro. The FD is the 92-02 RX-7 body. This car is considered a better chassis than the new RX-8 and a LS engine with the tremec 6 speed fits perfect. It's also a lighter car than the RX-8. Here is a link to a company that make a complete conversion package. http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/s-1-m...-fd-93-99.aspx