New Camaros are in the showrooms

Clay Arnett · 04-28-2009, 10:28 AM

The new Camaro's are heavy but all the new cars with latest technology and safety requirements are very heavy. I'm sure a drag version of the car could be made lighter but just compare the weights of the three out there. I'll go with the top of the line versions.

Mustang GT500 3,920lb
Camaro SS 3,860lb
Challenger SRT8 4,140lb

So none of them by any means are lightweights! They got the Challenger and Mustangs lighter so I'm sure you could get the Camaro alot lighter as well.

Danny, Yea I thought that guy was hilarious as well. I don't remember where I found him though. So you can steal him and use it to!

Bunkster · 04-28-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay Arnett

......but all the new cars with latest technology and safety requirements are very heavy......

The 2009 Kia Rio, at 2365 pounds, which has to meet the same standards, does not seem all that heavy.

Bunkster · 04-28-2009, 12:56 PM

Based on what seems the inevitable… that GM and Chrysler will be owned by the government and labor unions…while legitimate free market bond issuers will get screwed… I’ll never, ever, buy another GM or Chrysler vehicle again.

I always bought US vehicles, even when I knew they were junk. But no more.

As well, I always supported any CEO’s earnings: The silly minions that whined about their high salaries were, and still are, lowbrows and ignorant.

But when Rick Wagoner, without a peep, crawled away like a wuss when government sphincters told him to go, THAT was a moment to puke: You earn all that money and you end up being a wussy and sissy.

I’ll buy freak’n anything but a GM or Chrysler now: GM and Chrysler can go to Hell.

mtkawboy · 04-28-2009, 02:05 PM

I noticed that at SEMA seeing them in person, the color of them completly transforms the car. Dark colors are better, light makes them look too big to me.

Tom P · 04-29-2009, 12:50 AM

They had one at the new car show a couple weeks ago. Front end is still ugly even though it looks like they have done a few minor changes since the 07 and 08 shows the prototypes were at.

I sat in it, my head was against the roof. It was a sunroof model. No way i'd get a helmet on in there. The guages look hard to read while driving but that seems to be a GM trait for a while now.
It was a V8 but the salesman said they are only selling V6's for the first few months.

TD4087 · 04-29-2009, 08:51 AM

Saw one last Friday night at the track. Kid driving it with 20" looking rims/tires and it went 8.45 in the 1/8th. Not a bad looking car in person and I'm a Ford guy. But others here are right it looks like it is from the same mold as the Dodge

bill dedman · 04-29-2009, 02:58 PM

The 2009 Mazda RX-8 is only marginally smaller than what a Camaro should be (overall length 175") and has a curb weight of 3,060 pounds.

I realize a Wankel is a lot lighter than a big V8, but that's a huge difference in weight.

I don't think than ANY of the "big 3" (that's a joke, now) worked very hard to keep weight off their new ponycars. Too bad; if they had, they'd be REALLY fast, with those engines!

Mark Yacavone · 04-29-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TD4087

Saw one last Friday night at the track. Kid driving it with 20" looking rims/tires and it went 8.45 in the 1/8th. Not a bad looking car in person and I'm a Ford guy. But others here are right it looks like it is from the same mold as the Dodge

8.45? With a V6?

RJ · 05-01-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom P

the salesman said they are only selling V6's for the first few months.

There are some V8's out this way, Camaro #01 is owned by Rick Hendrick and it has a LS3.

bill dedman · 05-01-2009, 07:28 PM

Thanks, Clay. I'm not too swift when it comes to the letters/numbers game that involves foreign cars.

I just look at a '65 Mustang, and a '65 Barracuda and wonder what justifies the addition of at LEAST 800 pounds of weight to those cars in the 2009-2010 versions, Camaro included. Those cars had a few aluminum parts (automatic transmissions, mainly), but everything else was cast iron and steel and the both came in at very close to 3,000 pounds, curb weight.

Think about it.... EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS (and in some cases, more.) And, the cars are basically the same size... or, should be if they're not. I don't remember anybody not buying a new Mustang because it was too small.

Weight is a very important element in the performance makeup of any car; particularly, these.

Can you IMAGINE how an SRT-8 Hemi would motivate a 3,000-pound '65 Barracuda??? Instant low- 12's (maybe better) on the street.

What a shame...

04-28-2009, 10:28 AM	#1
Clay Arnett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hartsville, IN Posts: 128 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms The new Camaro's are heavy but all the new cars with latest technology and safety requirements are very heavy. I'm sure a drag version of the car could be made lighter but just compare the weights of the three out there. I'll go with the top of the line versions. Mustang GT500 3,920lb Camaro SS 3,860lb Challenger SRT8 4,140lb So none of them by any means are lightweights! They got the Challenger and Mustangs lighter so I'm sure you could get the Camaro alot lighter as well. Danny, Yea I thought that guy was hilarious as well. I don't remember where I found him though. So you can steal him and use it to!

04-28-2009, 12:56 PM	#3
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Based on what seems the inevitable… that GM and Chrysler will be owned by the government and labor unions…while legitimate free market bond issuers will get screwed… I’ll never, ever, buy another GM or Chrysler vehicle again. I always bought US vehicles, even when I knew they were junk. But no more. As well, I always supported any CEO’s earnings: The silly minions that whined about their high salaries were, and still are, lowbrows and ignorant. But when Rick Wagoner, without a peep, crawled away like a wuss when government sphincters told him to go, THAT was a moment to puke: You earn all that money and you end up being a wussy and sissy. I’ll buy freak’n anything but a GM or Chrysler now: GM and Chrysler can go to Hell.

04-28-2009, 02:05 PM	#4
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 281 Likes: 182 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms I noticed that at SEMA seeing them in person, the color of them completly transforms the car. Dark colors are better, light makes them look too big to me.

04-29-2009, 12:50 AM	#5
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 707 Likes: 30 Liked 239 Times in 94 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms They had one at the new car show a couple weeks ago. Front end is still ugly even though it looks like they have done a few minor changes since the 07 and 08 shows the prototypes were at. I sat in it, my head was against the roof. It was a sunroof model. No way i'd get a helmet on in there. The guages look hard to read while driving but that seems to be a GM trait for a while now. It was a V8 but the salesman said they are only selling V6's for the first few months.

04-29-2009, 08:51 AM	#6
TD4087 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Saw one last Friday night at the track. Kid driving it with 20" looking rims/tires and it went 8.45 in the 1/8th. Not a bad looking car in person and I'm a Ford guy. But others here are right it looks like it is from the same mold as the Dodge

04-29-2009, 02:58 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms The 2009 Mazda RX-8 is only marginally smaller than what a Camaro should be (overall length 175") and has a curb weight of 3,060 pounds. I realize a Wankel is a lot lighter than a big V8, but that's a huge difference in weight. I don't think than ANY of the "big 3" (that's a joke, now) worked very hard to keep weight off their new ponycars. Too bad; if they had, they'd be REALLY fast, with those engines! __________________ Bill

05-01-2009, 07:28 PM	#10
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Camaros are in the showrooms Thanks, Clay. I'm not too swift when it comes to the letters/numbers game that involves foreign cars. I just look at a '65 Mustang, and a '65 Barracuda and wonder what justifies the addition of at LEAST 800 pounds of weight to those cars in the 2009-2010 versions, Camaro included. Those cars had a few aluminum parts (automatic transmissions, mainly), but everything else was cast iron and steel and the both came in at very close to 3,000 pounds, curb weight. Think about it.... EIGHT HUNDRED POUNDS (and in some cases, more.) And, the cars are basically the same size... or, should be if they're not. I don't remember anybody not buying a new Mustang because it was too small. Weight is a very important element in the performance makeup of any car; particularly, these. Can you IMAGINE how an SRT-8 Hemi would motivate a 3,000-pound '65 Barracuda??? Instant low- 12's (maybe better) on the street. What a shame... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 05-01-2009 at 10:55 PM.