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Tom Goldman · 04-23-2009, 04:16 PM

Even tho it's not S/SS, or SG ,I find the fact that NHRA is trying to reel in the HP on the fuel cars interesting. ....I rarely enjoy watching the fuel cars at the track because so few of the tracks allow a spectator the proper perspectve to appreciate 300+mph. .........The loss of one pump is significant,altho the 3.50 gear will really help slow them even more,as the nitro cars really dont run well unless they are running against a hard load. .......I like the no timing control deal, any one who thinks a Super class car has too much electronics,has not looked at a modern Fuel car ! ......It should take the Allen Johnsons of the Fuel world a little while to overcome the limitations that this combo would present. .....Tom

Bryan Worner · 04-23-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

Even tho it's not S/SS, or SG ,I find the fact that NHRA is trying to reel in the HP on the fuel cars interesting. ....I rarely enjoy watching the fuel cars at the track because so few of the tracks allow a spectator the proper perspectve to appreciate 300+mph. .........The loss of one pump is significant,altho the 3.50 gear will really help slow them even more,as the nitro cars really dont run well unless they are running against a hard load. .......I like the no timing control deal, any one who thinks a Super class car has too much electronics,has not looked at a modern Fuel car ! ......It should take the Allen Johnsons of the Fuel world a little while to overcome the limitations that this combo would present. .....Tom

Probably only because they are running out of nitro!!!

Ed Fernandez · 04-23-2009, 08:09 PM

Looks like the jelly fish in Glendora gave them back the timing management.It seems like no one wants to work hard to achieve a goal anymore.

Ed F.

joe176 · 04-23-2009, 09:10 PM

They're probably doing this in the hopes of going back to full quarter mile racing.....friends of mine that only know what they see on tv can't corrolate the 1000' times and it just doesn't interest them like it used to when they ran the et's that they were familiar with watching in the full quarter mile.

Tom Goldman · 04-23-2009, 09:27 PM

Joe, I think you hit the nail on the head! ....It' probably much more about spectator appeal,than economics or safety....I know quite a few old motorheads who get together for Englishtown or Maple Grove and really dislike the 1000' racing.........It just makes me laugh when nitro snobs turn their noses up at Super class cars when the fuel cars are doing the same thing with even more electronics and pneumatics [altho the results are far more spectacular]......Tom

Ed Fernandez · 04-23-2009, 10:56 PM

The article said the changes were for preparation to go back to 1/4 mile racing.But the big #s wont
be there.At least the MPH.Don't think the ETs will improve for quite a while.Years ago guys like Garlits and the others were what he called crafty.Now they're just $$$$ powered.

Ed F.

bill dedman · 04-23-2009, 11:23 PM

At 300 mph those Fuel cars are traveling 440 feet per second. The difference between 1,000 feet and 1,320 feet is covered in .727-second.

So, all this agonizing is about watching racing for a difference of less than three-quarters of a second?

I wonder how long it takes to blink your eyes???

04-23-2009, 04:16 PM	#1
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,477 Likes: 892 Liked 883 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Off Topic Even tho it's not S/SS, or SG ,I find the fact that NHRA is trying to reel in the HP on the fuel cars interesting. ....I rarely enjoy watching the fuel cars at the track because so few of the tracks allow a spectator the proper perspectve to appreciate 300+mph. .........The loss of one pump is significant,altho the 3.50 gear will really help slow them even more,as the nitro cars really dont run well unless they are running against a hard load. .......I like the no timing control deal, any one who thinks a Super class car has too much electronics,has not looked at a modern Fuel car ! ......It should take the Allen Johnsons of the Fuel world a little while to overcome the limitations that this combo would present. .....Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

04-23-2009, 08:09 PM	#3
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Off Topic Looks like the jelly fish in Glendora gave them back the timing management.It seems like no one wants to work hard to achieve a goal anymore. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

04-23-2009, 09:10 PM	#4
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Off Topic They're probably doing this in the hopes of going back to full quarter mile racing.....friends of mine that only know what they see on tv can't corrolate the 1000' times and it just doesn't interest them like it used to when they ran the et's that they were familiar with watching in the full quarter mile.

04-23-2009, 09:27 PM	#5
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,477 Likes: 892 Liked 883 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Off Topic Joe, I think you hit the nail on the head! ....It' probably much more about spectator appeal,than economics or safety....I know quite a few old motorheads who get together for Englishtown or Maple Grove and really dislike the 1000' racing.........It just makes me laugh when nitro snobs turn their noses up at Super class cars when the fuel cars are doing the same thing with even more electronics and pneumatics [altho the results are far more spectacular]......Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

04-23-2009, 10:56 PM	#6
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Off Topic The article said the changes were for preparation to go back to 1/4 mile racing.But the big #s wont be there.At least the MPH.Don't think the ETs will improve for quite a while.Years ago guys like Garlits and the others were what he called crafty.Now they're just $$$$ powered. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

04-23-2009, 11:23 PM	#7
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Off Topic At 300 mph those Fuel cars are traveling 440 feet per second. The difference between 1,000 feet and 1,320 feet is covered in .727-second. So, all this agonizing is about watching racing for a difference of less than three-quarters of a second? I wonder how long it takes to blink your eyes??? __________________ Bill