Send Letters to NHRA

Ken Miele · 04-11-2009, 08:47 AM

JDG71, Wow, you sure told me, no come back for that one.

Dan, I wish you luck with you effort.

Being a rich a$$hole I find myself counting all my money these days and don't have time for the good fight.

Ken Miele · 04-11-2009, 08:51 AM

Billy, I have failed at many businesses, if Class Racer dies so be it. I will survive. If I have a warm place to live, food in my stomach and cloths on my back, life is good. Racing is for my enjoyment, but it is not a necessity.

Ken Miele · 04-11-2009, 09:04 AM

JDG71, I have no idea who you are, but unlike you I have no animosity towards you. You insult me because you do not agree with my position. I'm the minority here. Most believe as you do, but I do not insult other members as you feel you should.

Its is easy to stand for something that everyone agrees on. I will not let your insults change my opinion.

You keep posting your hate for people that may not see it your way. NHRA is were I will race and if you feel you need to move on, I repect that.

Randall Klein · 04-11-2009, 09:53 AM

First of all, I appreciate this forum and the give and take; at least something to read during the day while my business tanks. I've been reluctant to comment, because when we fought the muffler battle, I swore if we beat that back, I would never bitch again.

Thanks to NHRA, they are the giver that keeps on giving!

Its not this last $200, its the constant nibbles, the treatment: I know I'm the secondary show at Nat's, just dont shove it in my face, lately we've been the secondary show at LODRS with the advent of Top this an that, 2 year seat belts, fuel check that passes once, but not again, park here not there, badges, permits, used to race on Sunday's, now sometimes out of the program on Thurs or Friday, limited time trials, poor track prep,payouts frozen, contingencies down, treatment of sponsors, sloppy inconsistant tech, rules overruled, crappy ND, fire pants, diapers, neck collars, pitting in another zip code, the trumpeting of SRAC and its demise, dim light, the TV program, and on and on and on....oh there's much more as we all know, and NONE in and of itself is a deal breaker, but the body of work supplied by Glendora is amazing, if they believe "we are the backbone of racing"

Taking the position of "not bitching" is Neville Chamberlainisk acceptance of whatever the next big thing NHRA dreams up.

It's not the $200, for me and some it seems, it was the condesending arrogant attitude, and the timing.

Someone once said, "when Michael Jordan's tongue is hanging out, sumpin' bad is about to happen"...our corallary is "when NHRA suits have a meeting, sumpin' bad is gonna happen to class racers"....you have to imagine the risk-reward decision making...how hard can we milk these guys as we know they are "hooked" with $100+K racing operations...where they gonna go? ca-ching!

Do I "hate" NHRA, no, just saddened

treessavoy · 04-12-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Miele

JDG71, Wow, you sure told me, no come back for that one.

Dan, I wish you luck with you effort.

Being a rich a$$hole I find myself counting all my money these days and don't have time for the good fight.

Ken,

I heard that you are so fantastically rich that you often have your car flown to the track to race and have the requisite tall beautiful blondes as your pit crew. I just wanted to talk to you about some swamp....er... land I have for sale down here in FL. LOL!

What a collection of idiots, having money doesn't make a difference it's how bad do you want to race...if you don't like what the NHRA has done, go race with the IHRA, if you don't like them the bracket race and make more money than if you won an NHRA race, or nostalgia race and have fun...the object is to race and I don't believe any of you have a contract with the NHRA that doesn't allow you to race elsewhere .

Ken Miele · 04-12-2009, 10:43 AM

treessavoy,

Send me some info, always looking for a good deal...... All kidding aside.

This forum mirrors what many think in this country. Class warfare is constantly being waged. If you do well, you will be judge harshly even without knowing the facts. Some of the posts I have read are beyond belief. Making fun of the way people look, the nastiness to people that are successful. I feel sad that America has become a country of such hate for people that do well.

The mentality that you are owed something, give me a break, you are owed nothing in this life, people get screwed all the time. learn from it, and do something about it.

Everyone that is bitching about the price increases, have you never been screwed before? what did you do about it then?. I can not say this enough, if you pay for a service and the service is not what you expected, why would continually use that service. There are many places to race. If you dislike NHRA's treatment, do not support them.

I understand why people are upset at the price increase, but instead of calling them names and constantly whining about its not right. Do something about it, don't sit on your *** and just complain. Write letters, organize, do something, not just ride this popular I hate the way NHRA treats me. Like treessavoy said, there are other places to race, practice what you preach.

treessavoy, its nice to see there are a few members that have similar views. I wish the members would remember will all have a right to our opinion, even if we do not agree. We do not have to resort to name calling and disrespect each other. NHRA monitors this site, I think if we were more civil to each other and NHRA, we may have a better chance of them listening to us. Acting like a mob does us no good.

04-12-2009, 12:31 PM

There are some really great remarks and opinions here and some that defend and sound like they are on the NHRA payroll. Seems Sportsman ranks always get the shaft. What gets my attention is when guys like Pat and Dan post their thoughts and facts. I agree with them and others and will support them 100%.

What I would like to see is a reply from NHRA on how they arrived upon their decision to ding the Sportsman. They could have asked the Pro show to pay the current rate increase that they so easily passed on to the Sportsman but we know that's not going to happen any time soon. Did NHRA cut out raises from the top and take any cuts?

Can they have a Pro Show without the Sportsman racers? I don't think so. If they could it would have already happened. The only rollback I have heard is the oil down money and kids under twelve but as it appears they still got their money back. Are their more? I will mail and Email my questions to NHRA.

Barry

rayfin · 04-12-2009, 12:59 PM

I quit racing because of the cost. Ya, boo hoo for me. NHRA doesn't care about anything but the top 4 pro classes.
Without the racers there is no race. They don't care, they are in it for the money. It's just like religion and the government. Control and money.
Sad...

Larry Hill · 04-12-2009, 07:16 PM

Ken, I never knew you were "RICH"

Ken Miele · 04-12-2009, 08:15 PM

Larry, I didn't know I was rich until JDG71 pointed out I was a rich a$$hole.

Man, I'm sure glad he is on this site, who would thought, I finally made it.

04-11-2009, 08:47 AM	#1
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,887 Likes: 466 Liked 16,960 Times in 1,547 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA JDG71, Wow, you sure told me, no come back for that one. Dan, I wish you luck with you effort. Being a rich a$$hole I find myself counting all my money these days and don't have time for the good fight.

04-11-2009, 08:51 AM	#2
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,887 Likes: 466 Liked 16,960 Times in 1,547 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA Billy, I have failed at many businesses, if Class Racer dies so be it. I will survive. If I have a warm place to live, food in my stomach and cloths on my back, life is good. Racing is for my enjoyment, but it is not a necessity.

04-11-2009, 09:04 AM	#3
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,887 Likes: 466 Liked 16,960 Times in 1,547 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA JDG71, I have no idea who you are, but unlike you I have no animosity towards you. You insult me because you do not agree with my position. I'm the minority here. Most believe as you do, but I do not insult other members as you feel you should. Its is easy to stand for something that everyone agrees on. I will not let your insults change my opinion. You keep posting your hate for people that may not see it your way. NHRA is were I will race and if you feel you need to move on, I repect that.

04-11-2009, 09:53 AM	#4
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA First of all, I appreciate this forum and the give and take; at least something to read during the day while my business tanks. I've been reluctant to comment, because when we fought the muffler battle, I swore if we beat that back, I would never bitch again. Thanks to NHRA, they are the giver that keeps on giving! Its not this last $200, its the constant nibbles, the treatment: I know I'm the secondary show at Nat's, just dont shove it in my face, lately we've been the secondary show at LODRS with the advent of Top this an that, 2 year seat belts, fuel check that passes once, but not again, park here not there, badges, permits, used to race on Sunday's, now sometimes out of the program on Thurs or Friday, limited time trials, poor track prep,payouts frozen, contingencies down, treatment of sponsors, sloppy inconsistant tech, rules overruled, crappy ND, fire pants, diapers, neck collars, pitting in another zip code, the trumpeting of SRAC and its demise, dim light, the TV program, and on and on and on....oh there's much more as we all know, and NONE in and of itself is a deal breaker, but the body of work supplied by Glendora is amazing, if they believe "we are the backbone of racing" Taking the position of "not bitching" is Neville Chamberlainisk acceptance of whatever the next big thing NHRA dreams up. It's not the $200, for me and some it seems, it was the condesending arrogant attitude, and the timing. Someone once said, "when Michael Jordan's tongue is hanging out, sumpin' bad is about to happen"...our corallary is "when NHRA suits have a meeting, sumpin' bad is gonna happen to class racers"....you have to imagine the risk-reward decision making...how hard can we milk these guys as we know they are "hooked" with $100+K racing operations...where they gonna go? ca-ching! Do I "hate" NHRA, no, just saddened

04-12-2009, 10:43 AM	#6
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,887 Likes: 466 Liked 16,960 Times in 1,547 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA treessavoy, Send me some info, always looking for a good deal...... All kidding aside. This forum mirrors what many think in this country. Class warfare is constantly being waged. If you do well, you will be judge harshly even without knowing the facts. Some of the posts I have read are beyond belief. Making fun of the way people look, the nastiness to people that are successful. I feel sad that America has become a country of such hate for people that do well. The mentality that you are owed something, give me a break, you are owed nothing in this life, people get screwed all the time. learn from it, and do something about it. Everyone that is bitching about the price increases, have you never been screwed before? what did you do about it then?. I can not say this enough, if you pay for a service and the service is not what you expected, why would continually use that service. There are many places to race. If you dislike NHRA's treatment, do not support them. I understand why people are upset at the price increase, but instead of calling them names and constantly whining about its not right. Do something about it, don't sit on your *** and just complain. Write letters, organize, do something, not just ride this popular I hate the way NHRA treats me. Like treessavoy said, there are other places to race, practice what you preach. treessavoy, its nice to see there are a few members that have similar views. I wish the members would remember will all have a right to our opinion, even if we do not agree. We do not have to resort to name calling and disrespect each other. NHRA monitors this site, I think if we were more civil to each other and NHRA, we may have a better chance of them listening to us. Acting like a mob does us no good.

04-12-2009, 12:31 PM	#7
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Send Letters to NHRA There are some really great remarks and opinions here and some that defend and sound like they are on the NHRA payroll. Seems Sportsman ranks always get the shaft. What gets my attention is when guys like Pat and Dan post their thoughts and facts. I agree with them and others and will support them 100%. What I would like to see is a reply from NHRA on how they arrived upon their decision to ding the Sportsman. They could have asked the Pro show to pay the current rate increase that they so easily passed on to the Sportsman but we know that's not going to happen any time soon. Did NHRA cut out raises from the top and take any cuts? Can they have a Pro Show without the Sportsman racers? I don't think so. If they could it would have already happened. The only rollback I have heard is the oil down money and kids under twelve but as it appears they still got their money back. Are their more? I will mail and Email my questions to NHRA. Barry

04-12-2009, 12:59 PM	#8
rayfin Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sioux city Posts: 134 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA I quit racing because of the cost. Ya, boo hoo for me. NHRA doesn't care about anything but the top 4 pro classes. Without the racers there is no race. They don't care, they are in it for the money. It's just like religion and the government. Control and money. Sad...

04-12-2009, 07:16 PM	#9
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04-12-2009, 08:15 PM	#10
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,887 Likes: 466 Liked 16,960 Times in 1,547 Posts	Re: Send Letters to NHRA Larry, I didn't know I was rich until JDG71 pointed out I was a rich a$$hole. Man, I'm sure glad he is on this site, who would thought, I finally made it.