Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

What is a "BOGUS" track ???

Is a track "BOGUS" because it happens to have GOOD AIR ???

I shouldn't reply to someone with a BOGUS name...... :-(

no, a bogus track is one where they subtract .4 from your ET and give you the record for it, even if the actual DA is sea level at the time

[Jack Matyas]

As a point of reference Erich Bollman ( AA/SA '08 Mustang CJ ) qualfied # 16 at Atco -(remember, this is 1/8 mile) - 6.162 -.868 under . Also he went Top Speed of the event @111.86 MPH .I have no idea what his weight was on those runs .Carry on ..............

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

no, a bogus track is one where they subtract .4 from your ET and give you the record for it, even if the actual DA is sea level at the time

AND WHAT DIVISION DIRECTORS ALLOW THAT ???
Could you name some tracks and Division Directors that allow Tech to do that ??

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

AND WHAT DIVISION DIRECTORS ALLOW THAT ???
Could you name some tracks and Division Directors that allow Tech to do that ??

ok the .4 was an exxageration. but you can set a record at an altitude factored track without putting the number on the board. and they are exempt from getting hit with HP. It is BS

[Smitty]

This post is Bogus!!! Once again these cars have not done anything wrong but show potential. Robert Pond and Bobby DeArmond have been running nines for the last couple years and they haven't generated this kind of attention. Geez, this is ridicoulous!

[bsa633]

Sorry ..little "off topic"

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

no, a bogus track is one where they subtract .4 from your ET and give you the record for it, even if the actual DA is sea level at the time

from anoter site:
The correction factor for Las Vegas is .9757

8.630 x .9757 = 8.42

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Jared Jordan
7551 SS/BA

just one example but alot of records are from "the strip"..C.W. was faster at the Dutch last fall than Vegas at the shootout..even with the factor..he's a good example because i think he's never "holding any".. may have developed over the winter also..so what would you like to do with E.T's from Atco,"Dutch" and Houston,Florida,"Alabama" made in the "winter"?

[bill dedman]

Art Leong asked, "Why is everyone so hung up on MPH. It's an elapsed time race not a high mph race."

That's true.
But, for purposes of engine output analysis, the e.t's can vary a lot depending on traction; mphs do not. That makes the mph figure a lot more reliable indicator of horsepower delivered to the ground.

You can make a run taking off in 2nd gear and it will absolutely KILL yout e.t., but won't affect the mph nearly as much.

These Mustangs are set up to leave very "soft" and for the mph they're turning, really should be running a lot quicker than they are... like 9.40's-9.50's. I'll bet their 60-foot times are nowhere near the 1.20s, where they should be.

But, the mph remains the reliable indicator of performance that tells HP output without much variance.

That's why people on here, who are trying to evaluate the output of these CJ engines, are "hung up" on trap speed. It's just the most accurate way to judge the potential of these cars.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by bsa633

Sorry ..little "off topic"



from anoter site:
The correction factor for Las Vegas is .9757

8.630 x .9757 = 8.42

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Jared Jordan
7551 SS/BA

just one example but alot of records are from "the strip"..C.W. was faster at the Dutch last fall than Vegas at the shootout..even with the factor..he's a good example because i think he's never "holding any".. may have developed over the winter also..so what would you like to do with E.T's from Atco,"Dutch" and Houston,Florida,"Alabama" made in the "winter"?

you put the number on the scoreboard, you get the record. thats a pretty simple concept. you mentioned houston, thats a a double edged sword. I've raced there in august/september in 4200' DA. where's the correction factor for 110% humidity and 104 degrees? THERE ISN'T ONE! and you shouldn't get a freebie record because you are at a factored track.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

you put the number on the scoreboard, you get the record. thats a pretty simple concept. you mentioned houston, thats a a double edged sword. I've raced there in august/september in 4200' DA. where's the correction factor for 110% humidity and 104 degrees? THERE ISN'T ONE! and you shouldn't get a freebie record because you are at a factored track.

But you think it should work the other way too right...no freebies when the air is an actual -1000-1500 or whatever it could turn out too...or?