Conversation with Mike Baker @ IHRA

[Chuck Beach]

There are approximately 145 IHRA stock eliminator classes now, what the heck, there is always room for one or two more ...

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

There are approximately 145 IHRA stock eliminator classes now, what the heck, there is always room for one or two more ...

But at least these cars,and the Camaro if and when,will be where they belong,away from combos that
are pretty much evolved,where the new ones are just evolving.Someone will probably say that the F.I. cars were in the same catogory,but they duked it out mostly in their own class.Now that the hp got needed
corrections they blend in to the established classes they are in.Lets see what developes.

Ed F.

[Bruce Noland]

Chuck,
Mike is very much aware of IHRA's "too" many classes reputation. He feels everybody should have a fair place to race and offers no apologies. Nor should he. You can always call him if you would like to discuss it further.

[Evan Smith]

Ed,

So all new combinations are supposed to have their own class to "duke it out" until they evolve? Basically, that is what you are saying and it is rubbish. This is RACING! Not everything can be fair and not everyone can be a winner.

If the older combos were tapped out, no one would be getting HP, but that isn't the case because all combinations, when worked on, continue to evolve. Fact is, Detroit is finally building cars that are fast again and that are interesting to Stock racers. These cars are fast, in most cases way faster than any true muscle car of the '60s, thanks to development in the entire engine (not just EFI). I love the early muscle but for comparison's sake, my wife's 2007 Mustang GT automatic with only a performance re-flash to the computer went 13.28 at 105 mph (in killer air). With gears and a cold-air intake it's in the 12s. That is quicker and faster than virtually all of the coveted muscle cars, which we all love. The Mustang has only 281ci and weighs 3,600 lbs.

Evan

[Jack Matyas]

Evan -- You're soooooooo right -back in the day I had a new '69 Z-28 that was a second slower than your wife's Mustang.......BTW , does she know you were trackin' with her car ?

[Evan Smith]

Shhhhhhh, if she sees this thread I'm dead!

[Bruce Noland]

Ford guys,

Ed made a fair point. Rubbish? Why so intense?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Evan Smith

Ed,

So all new combinations are supposed to have their own class to "duke it out" until they evolve? Basically, that is what you are saying and it is rubbish. This is RACING! Not everything can be fair and not everyone can be a winner.

If the older combos were tapped out, no one would be getting HP, but that isn't the case because all combinations, when worked on, continue to evolve. Fact is, Detroit is finally building cars that are fast again and that are interesting to Stock racers. These cars are fast, in most cases way faster than any true muscle car of the '60s, thanks to development in the entire engine (not just EFI). I love the early muscle but for comparison's sake, my wife's 2007 Mustang GT automatic with only a performance re-flash to the computer went 13.28 at 105 mph (in killer air). With gears and a cold-air intake it's in the 12s. That is quicker and faster than virtually all of the coveted muscle cars, which we all love. The Mustang has only 281ci and weighs 3,600 lbs.

Evan

Evan;
You said it yourself,the new cars are years ahead of the old muscle cars.And NHRA has their heads up their *** as far as factoring them,and you know it.All I said was give them their day in the sun and let them go at it flat out.That would be a hell of alot more interesting than seeing 1000' runs and guys scrubbing off et's with the brakes.The amount of letting off at 1000' ft is getting a bit boring.I think alot of the people in the stands would agree,that's one reason why the stands empty for the Super categories.

Ed

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

There are approximately 145 IHRA stock eliminator classes now, what the heck, there is always room for one or two more ...

Sounds a little like AHRA dosent it........LOL

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Chuck Beach

There are approximately 145 IHRA stock eliminator classes now, what the heck, there is always room for one or two more ...

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Sounds a little like AHRA dosent it........LOL

Sadly, I know I'm a no namer that never really has or did accomplish anything in racing. I always thought the AHRA and to an extent the old IHRA system of classes were a good concept. It gave more people a chance to put together a car.

Look at how many NHRA stock classes there were 30 some years ago. In fact, NHRA has done alot to eliminate classes. Look how we debated the old Modified Eliminator awhile back. Seems many think that wasn't such a great move! Even though many of those classes were renamed and split up between SS and Comp Eliminator.

All I want to do is get a car together and come race again,

Robert Swartz