My First Look at the CJ's

Colin Wigle · 03-14-2009, 01:52 PM

Alan,

Who has EVER gave you the idea that the OEMs were trying to save stock?

I think it is great that the OEMs are giving recognition and appreciation to the sportsman racers. Sounds like a good marketing tool for both of us. Your constant voiced negativity towards NHRA and corporate America IMO will be the thing that destroys the hobby that you love.

Colin

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cwigle

Alan,

Who has EVER gave you the idea that the OEMs were trying to save stock?

I think it is great that the OEMs are giving recognition and appreciation to the sportsman racers. Sounds like a good marketing tool for both of us. Your constant voiced negativity towards NHRA and corporate America IMO will be the thing that destroys the hobby that you love.

Colin

Colin,
Several people have voiced the opinion that the new interest of the OEMs will be the thing that helps Stock. I disagree.

I'm not completely negative on NHRA, when they are right I give them credit, when they are wrong, I say so. The same applies to corporate America. When they are right, they are right, and they deserve credit for it. When they are wrong they are wrong, and deserve to be called out for it. A wise man once said, "Remain silent when things are wrong and you are part of the problem."

I have to ask, as I haven't seen one, has Ford made ANY commercials to be shown on TV featuring the new CJ, and especially John Calvert winning Pomona with one in the debut race? I'm looking at it from a marketing stand point. In fact, that is exactly the point I'm looking at it from.

GUMP · 03-14-2009, 02:27 PM

I wonder how much the "corporate" guys actually had to do with these cars? I bet it took a lot to get them past the bean counters. I really doubt that the bean counters and shareholders were the driving force behind a project that is this small.

Colin Wigle · 03-14-2009, 02:37 PM

Alan,

I do not no of any TV commercials of the sort, There was some nice articles printed within the racing world though. I would think that at the events this year it would be played up, that is were the largest fan base is. It’s the little things that make a difference Last year at Indy I received a phone call from Brian Wolfe congratulating me on my efforts for class; I did not win but gave it my best effort. That sort of thing goes a long way for me.

Colin

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cwigle

Alan,

I do not no of any TV commercials of the sort, There was some nice articles printed within the racing world though. I would think that at the events this year it would be played up, that is were the largest fan base is. It’s the little things that make a difference Last year at Indy I received a phone call from Brian Wolf congratulating me on my efforts for class; I did not win but gave it my best effort. That sort of thing goes a long way for me.

Colin

Colin,
You've done very well, your car is impressive. That Brian Wolf called you shows that he is one of the good guys. And that is definitely very cool. Congratulations, and good luck.

I saw a few flashes about Calvert's win, but nothing of substance, which begs the question, "where's the beef?" Where's the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" marketing?

BlueOval Ralph · 03-14-2009, 05:59 PM

ok ok

Ken Miele · 03-14-2009, 07:03 PM

Larry, I'm glad I could help. We all need to smile once in a while. I have to head home. I think the next race we might be at together will be Norwalk, if not that, you know I will be at Indy.

I don't drink but would love to BS about what we do up north.

Talk to you soon, keep us posted on what happens at Belle Rose, we are all counting on you and Patsy.

69Cobra · 03-14-2009, 08:29 PM

These cars can run in S/S right? If so what class would they be in?

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

I wonder how much the "corporate" guys actually had to do with these cars? I bet it took a lot to get them past the bean counters. I really doubt that the bean counters and shareholders were the driving force behind a project that is this small.

The corporate guys have nothing to do with getting something like this started. They have everything to do with how much is spent, and a lot to do with where it is spent. Corporate guys allow something like this to happen, they don't make it happen. But then they start looking for their return on their money spent. When 2-3 big corporations start getting involved in something way smaller than they are, they bring a whole lot of leverage and power. You have to wonder what they want, and what they're willing to do to get it.

GUMP · 03-14-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

The corporate guys have nothing to do with getting something like this started. They have everything to do with how much is spent, and a lot to do with where it is spent. Corporate guys allow something like this to happen, they don't make it happen. But then they start looking for their return on their money spent. When 2-3 big corporations start getting involved in something way smaller than they are, they bring a whole lot of leverage and power. You have to wonder what they want, and what they're willing to do to get it.

Oh, kind of like the the COPO Camaros in 1969?

03-14-2009, 01:52 PM	#1
Colin Wigle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 50 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Alan, Who has EVER gave you the idea that the OEMs were trying to save stock? I think it is great that the OEMs are giving recognition and appreciation to the sportsman racers. Sounds like a good marketing tool for both of us. Your constant voiced negativity towards NHRA and corporate America IMO will be the thing that destroys the hobby that you love. Colin

03-14-2009, 02:27 PM	#3
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,166 Liked 2,354 Times in 554 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's I wonder how much the "corporate" guys actually had to do with these cars? I bet it took a lot to get them past the bean counters. I really doubt that the bean counters and shareholders were the driving force behind a project that is this small.

03-14-2009, 02:37 PM	#4
Colin Wigle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 50 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Alan, I do not no of any TV commercials of the sort, There was some nice articles printed within the racing world though. I would think that at the events this year it would be played up, that is were the largest fan base is. It’s the little things that make a difference Last year at Indy I received a phone call from Brian Wolfe congratulating me on my efforts for class; I did not win but gave it my best effort. That sort of thing goes a long way for me. Colin Last edited by Colin Wigle; 03-15-2009 at 08:55 AM. Reason: spelling for Wayne

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BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's ok ok Last edited by BlueOval Ralph; 03-15-2009 at 06:29 AM.

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Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 456 Liked 16,557 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's Larry, I'm glad I could help. We all need to smile once in a while. I have to head home. I think the next race we might be at together will be Norwalk, if not that, you know I will be at Indy. I don't drink but would love to BS about what we do up north. Talk to you soon, keep us posted on what happens at Belle Rose, we are all counting on you and Patsy.

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69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First Look at the CJ's These cars can run in S/S right? If so what class would they be in? __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032