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X-TECH MAN · 03-13-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Moock

X-TECHMAN, Who are the new guys? Who are the old guys, Tom

I dont know the names of the new guys in Calif. and I wont mention the old guys names. Trust me.....It has happened. Its called "Cut Backs" like less pay for the tech crews and 3 less people to run the divisionals.

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I dont know the names of the new guys in Calif. and I wont mention the old guys names. Trust me.....It has happened. Its called "Cut Backs" like less pay for the tech crews and 3 less people to run the divisionals.

Terry, I don't think it was all about money and cutting costs. I think it was at least as much about absolute control. Glendora did not have absolute and total control over all of it, especially not the data. They do, now.

X-TECH MAN · 03-14-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Terry, I don't think it was all about money and cutting costs. I think it was at least as much about absolute control. Glendora did not have absolute and total control over all of it, especially not the data. They do, now.

Maybe so but why have 2 dorks who nothing about stock and S/S be involved with something as important as the AHFS?????

Alan Roehrich · 03-14-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Maybe so but why have 2 dorks who nothing about stock and S/S be involved with something as important as the AHFS?????

Because you can tell them what you want, instead of them telling you what needs to be done. The less they know, the easier they are to control.

Bruce Noland · 03-15-2009, 10:25 AM

Guys,

We might as well say it straight out. The good ship nhra is foundering. They are making all the wrong moves at exactly the wrong time; obvious signs of an outfit in serious trouble. The rumor mill is full of stuff about nhra being washed up. With little or no reserves it appears that nhra is living off the cash from each race. Executives in Glendora must be fearful for their jobs, as they circle the wagons. Car counts are way, way down and I did not see the normally huge crowds at the Gators this year. Yeah, there were lots of fans there but nothing like the past. This bad economy has a lot to do with it as well. I heard they have resorted to giving tickets away at NASCAR races to fill the stands for the TV cameras. I hope the nhra bean counters are paying attention. Or they could be finished by the end of the year!

442OLDS · 03-15-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Guys,

We might as well say it straight out. The good ship nhra is foundering. They are making all the wrong moves at exactly the wrong time; obvious signs of an outfit in serious trouble. The rumor mill is full of stuff about nhra being washed up. With little or no reserves it appears that nhra is living off the cash from each race. Executives in Glendora must be fearful for their jobs, as they circle the wagons. Car counts are way, way down and I did not see the normally huge crowds at the Gators this year. Yeah, there were lots of fans there but nothing like the past. This bad economy has a lot to do with it as well. I heard they have resorted to giving tickets away at NASCAR races to fill the stands for the TV cameras. I hope the nhra bean counters are paying attention. Or they could be finished by the end of the year!

If they are hurting that bad,I would expect them to have an announcement that Stock Eliminator will be allowed to race at Atlanta and St Louis.I can't believe they would eliminate the class at these two races if they truly wanted to increase revenue.I don't know about Atlanta,but I think St Louis would easily have about 80 cars if Stock Eliminator was being contested.

Ken Miele · 03-15-2009, 12:04 PM

I have to disagree Bruce, the parking lots were full, the camp grounds full, the stands were full. I purposely stayed away from pro pits because there were so many fans. I don't see the doom and gloom, I have not heard any rumors about NHRA having money problems. The racers, tech people and manufactures that I talked to are all upbeat. When I went out to eat, the norm was 20 to 30 min wait. I think NHRA will be here for a long time along with stock and super stock. If NHRA survived the 70's I think they will be able to get through these times.

People can put any spin on what the times are today, but for me the late 70's were the worst, its not even close. Today people worry about how many cars they can own, how big there house is, back in the 70's I was happy to have one car and a warm place to live.

I'm sorry guys, I am not a doom and gloom guy. You say NHRA is fondering, well I don't see it.

Bruce Noland · 03-15-2009, 11:45 AM

442,
Do you think that the contingency agreements that were worked out last year may have something to do with the category structures? You may have noticed that there are no category lock outs for Las Vegas and nhra has substantially increased quotas for this years events. They are not immune to this mess.

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Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: So................... Guys, We might as well say it straight out. The good ship nhra is foundering. They are making all the wrong moves at exactly the wrong time; obvious signs of an outfit in serious trouble. The rumor mill is full of stuff about nhra being washed up. With little or no reserves it appears that nhra is living off the cash from each race. Executives in Glendora must be fearful for their jobs, as they circle the wagons. Car counts are way, way down and I did not see the normally huge crowds at the Gators this year. Yeah, there were lots of fans there but nothing like the past. This bad economy has a lot to do with it as well. I heard they have resorted to giving tickets away at NASCAR races to fill the stands for the TV cameras. I hope the nhra bean counters are paying attention. Or they could be finished by the end of the year! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

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Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,554 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: So................... I have to disagree Bruce, the parking lots were full, the camp grounds full, the stands were full. I purposely stayed away from pro pits because there were so many fans. I don't see the doom and gloom, I have not heard any rumors about NHRA having money problems. The racers, tech people and manufactures that I talked to are all upbeat. When I went out to eat, the norm was 20 to 30 min wait. I think NHRA will be here for a long time along with stock and super stock. If NHRA survived the 70's I think they will be able to get through these times. People can put any spin on what the times are today, but for me the late 70's were the worst, its not even close. Today people worry about how many cars they can own, how big there house is, back in the 70's I was happy to have one car and a warm place to live. I'm sorry guys, I am not a doom and gloom guy. You say NHRA is fondering, well I don't see it.

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Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: So................... 442, Do you think that the contingency agreements that were worked out last year may have something to do with the category structures? You may have noticed that there are no category lock outs for Las Vegas and nhra has substantially increased quotas for this years events. They are not immune to this mess. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK