"WHAT IF" part 4

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

My first guess would be 12-20 (on the NHRA side that is). I only can think of myself and these guys (cars):
1. Brad Pierce
2. Randy Hyman
3. Bill Owen
4. Steve Pohill
5. Dennis Chapman
6. Jim Wahl
7. Nichole Stephenson
8. The Minnesota Neon
9. Russ Abrams
10. Myself--Gary Hampton
11. Stan Kopejtka
12. Bill Howell
13. Skip Loeffler

That's it as I can best recall of last seasons racers...any others out there? Speak up....

You forgot Mike Carr in Div. 1 Penn. area.

[Paul Merolla]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

You forgot Mike Carr in Div. 1 Penn. area.

And Art Leong...

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla

And Art Leong...

I should have said "STOCK" elim. FWD cars for this list. After that how many FWD Super Stock ? cars in the country??? Probably less !

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

You forgot Mike Carr in Div. 1 Penn. area.

Ok so now there's 14, and if Art Leong still has his Stocker, 15. Any others??? There probably would be more if manufactures sustained product creation like they did back in the 80's & 90's...example; Hooker used to make headers for the 173c.i. V6 engine (for Chevy Citations) , but they don't now...thus I have to get custom made headers (that cost 2-3x's what they once cost as a regular part back then), in order to have them! That sucks!!

[Michael Beard]

Billy Nees has another Sunbird, and I still have my Turismo (that one has been on 'injured reserve' until last summer)

[Detroit Bob]

The beauty of Stock Eliminator is the diverse combinations that show up to the race track. I love it. Anything that people dream up. 4,6 8 cylinders, Fwd, you name it.
I think the most boring aspect of Drag racing is the pro categories. All of them look the same and perform the same. Basically the fuel categories are the same. Pro stock is boring as hell with look alike bodies. Hell take the stickers off the front of those cars and put them in primer and you couldn't tell what make they are.
At least with stock and super stock at least you know what make of car is going down the race track.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Might go with ONE pound wt breaks instead of 1/2 lb breaks to further reduce the number of classes in both stock and super stock. Have to add a 6 and 7 lb wt break for the GT S/Sers to give the Hemi, T-Bolts, and Hi HP Corvettes some competition. The slight wt. break might work well to combine GT and traditional Super stockers????? Maybe some wt. break for the lower class automatic stockers and super stockers also. The main thing is there are way to many classes. The manufactures cannot pay for class win for all these different classes in this economy. Why do you think that a class win money has been going down and it isnt worth much even at Indy? All would still run the eliminator on Sunday anyway....not just class winners. Just thinking out loud. One question.....How many FWD cars exist today across the country anyway????

ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO SET UP A NEW ASSOCIATION??????
Adjust this, drop that, It seems to me the stuff you are plotting makes glendora look like childs play.
I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again. If you want a totally level playing field go race heavy eliminator or nostagia race. And leave the the perfomance backed stuff to others.
How about you can't win class unless you have competition in your class. That would get rid of most of the FWD cars!!!!!! HAPPY????????
PS in SS there are Ron Sebelnick, Tim Kish, Myself and some others under consturction. All in the same class

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by art leong

ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO SET UP A NEW ASSOCIATION??????
Adjust this, drop that, It seems to me the stuff you are plotting makes glendora look like childs play.
I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again. If you want a totally level playing field go race heavy eliminator or nostagia race. And leave the the perfomance backed stuff to others.
How about you can't win class unless you have competition in your class. That would get rid of most of the FWD cars!!!!!! HAPPY????????
PS in SS there are Ron Sebelnick, Tim Kish, Myself and some others under consturction. All in the same class

You just dont get it...............there are just TO MANY CLASSES for the manufacturer,s to pay class win money. The show as it is right now is nothing more than a bracket race to spectators. Im not saying this will be done but SOMETHING has to be done or its nothing more but the same old crap like NHRA and IHRA and the spectators dont give a S##T about it.

[art leong]

I get it.
Like I said just don't offer contingency to "ANYONE" that doesn't have another car in their class.
Sounds simple to me.
Or are you "WORRIED" about offending some of your "PALS".
This "BS" about FWD has gone on long enough they have had classes for them for over 25 years, like it or not they are "HERE TO STAY"
Everyone on here has been saying the reason the companies don't want to get involved is the "VIG" nhra charges not the numbers of classes.
Maybe you should get Tim Gietner to be in chanrge of your "new association"

[art leong]

Also I've just about heard enough about "their is more fun in it when their are more cars in the class"
I believe the only ones having fun are the ones having "FUN" are those that are winning or capable of winng the class. The others are just there for the bracket race.
In todays "mentality" if you had less classes "the few" would spend more money and dominate them anyway.
Or do you still live in the utopian world where hard work and sweat can "trump" money.
If you do take a look at the pro classes and see how many of them started as sportsman racers!!!!!!