"DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval - Page 2

cutta · 03-04-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

So far, I haven't seen a new hemi I would call fast. 13 seconds off the show room floor at best. Do they have something new? The new Cobra Jet would turn one of those things every way but loose.

Hey Ed, The production version of the Challengers is no where close to the Drag-Pak version. The Drag-Pak cars will be very close to the CJ's in ET. In testing, they went 10.0's with a weaker pump gas engine than the production "race" version. The new engines will have more power. Not to mention the fact that none of the esteemed Stock car racing guru's have hade time to tune on the car. Just wait until it gets into some gifted hands, and you'll see numbers equal to that of the CJ. The other good thing about the Drag-Pak is that its being offered with two engine options. You can get the wedge and run in a lower class, or get the hemi and run higher. Racer gets to choose.

Ed Wright · 03-04-2009, 06:27 PM

Then it'll be interesting.

partsbob67 · 03-04-2009, 06:39 PM

i think this is getting to be very exciting. it's great that there is some factory rivalary going on again.

larrylomascolo · 03-04-2009, 07:07 PM

its hard to watch the new camaro not being avalible in white versions,who would have thought G.M would do this,sad to see

Bob Pagano · 03-04-2009, 07:13 PM

Here's a thought. The car companies are trying to get the younger generation to buy on Monday and stop buying Rice cars. It not for us or nhra, they are trying to get back to when car sales were driven by youth but the price one has to pay is far more than 40 years ago. They are grabbing at straws here. It will make for some fun racing this year.

Jim Bailey · 03-04-2009, 07:26 PM

I hear the Hemi Challenger is available from the Hurst Corp. in a supercharged version. In keeping a level playing field, I was wondering if maybe it would be approved? (lmao)

Jeff Lee · 03-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Good point on Hurst. Hurst has long been recognized by NHRA w/ Oldsmobile. Hurst is offering supercharger options on the Challenger with both the 5.7L & 6.1L Hemi's. If Hurst does petition NHRA for allowance of their own Challenger, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that?
425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter.
78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP.
Simple as that!

Saleen has also entered the Dodge Challenger tuner market. Saleen Mustangs have been recognized by NHRA as production vehicles so I would assume incorporating the Challengers by Saleen into the class guide shouldn't be an issue either.

Regarding the 6.1L Hemi SRT8 engine, I've mentioned it before but feel it's worth mentioning again. MACH Development took a 6.1L crate engine with full factory exhaust manifolds and front drive accesories, added larger injectors and provided their own tune. Idled "like a kitten" as he said and ripped 550 HP out of the factory 425 HP engine. This is not a blue-printed engine, it's right out of the MOPAR crate with the oil even provided in the assembly.
The "race" 6.1L Hemi provided with the Drag-Pak Challenger is an improvement on the above mentioned street Hemi.
I have no doubt a CJ500 vs. Race Hemi will be competitive; and exciting!

I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis.
Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea!

bsa633 · 03-04-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that?
425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter.
78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP.
Simple as that!

Fair enough...but i dont se it making Stock at that rating anyway..needs to be lower..so it would be SS...right were they should be!

Walker4108 · 03-04-2009, 09:59 PM

When will we see the first one on a qualifing sheet?

DonatoEng · 03-04-2009, 11:19 PM

There are three engines available for the Challenger package car, 6.1L & 5.7L Hemi and the 5.9L Magnum Wedge.

03-04-2009, 06:27 PM	#12
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval Then it'll be interesting. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-04-2009, 06:39 PM	#13
partsbob67 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: rohnert park,ca Posts: 414 Likes: 11 Liked 79 Times in 11 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval i think this is getting to be very exciting. it's great that there is some factory rivalary going on again. __________________ bob beals 7244

03-04-2009, 07:07 PM	#14
larrylomascolo Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario,canada Posts: 440 Likes: 70 Liked 66 Times in 29 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval its hard to watch the new camaro not being avalible in white versions,who would have thought G.M would do this,sad to see

03-04-2009, 07:13 PM	#15
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval Here's a thought. The car companies are trying to get the younger generation to buy on Monday and stop buying Rice cars. It not for us or nhra, they are trying to get back to when car sales were driven by youth but the price one has to pay is far more than 40 years ago. They are grabbing at straws here. It will make for some fun racing this year. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

03-04-2009, 07:26 PM	#16
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval I hear the Hemi Challenger is available from the Hurst Corp. in a supercharged version. In keeping a level playing field, I was wondering if maybe it would be approved? (lmao)

03-04-2009, 08:42 PM	#17
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval Good point on Hurst. Hurst has long been recognized by NHRA w/ Oldsmobile. Hurst is offering supercharger options on the Challenger with both the 5.7L & 6.1L Hemi's. If Hurst does petition NHRA for allowance of their own Challenger, I would suggest a 480 HP rating. How did I come up with that? 425 HP / 5.4L supercharged Ford = 78.70 HP per liter. 78.70 HP x 6.1L supercharged Hemi = 480 HP. Simple as that! Saleen has also entered the Dodge Challenger tuner market. Saleen Mustangs have been recognized by NHRA as production vehicles so I would assume incorporating the Challengers by Saleen into the class guide shouldn't be an issue either. Regarding the 6.1L Hemi SRT8 engine, I've mentioned it before but feel it's worth mentioning again. MACH Development took a 6.1L crate engine with full factory exhaust manifolds and front drive accesories, added larger injectors and provided their own tune. Idled "like a kitten" as he said and ripped 550 HP out of the factory 425 HP engine. This is not a blue-printed engine, it's right out of the MOPAR crate with the oil even provided in the assembly. The "race" 6.1L Hemi provided with the Drag-Pak Challenger is an improvement on the above mentioned street Hemi. I have no doubt a CJ500 vs. Race Hemi will be competitive; and exciting! I read a Motor Trend article yesterday where GM was looking at political correctness in the current green world environment and elected to drop the 2010 Z-28 which was slated to use the 550HP Cadilac CTS-V supercharged engine (ZL1 'Vette engine de-tuned from 634 HP). Other concerns mentioned by GM was they had doubts (concerns?) about traction with such an engine in the RWD chassis. Those that voted "for change" stand in a circle and say Yea! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 03-04-2009 at 08:44 PM.

03-04-2009, 09:59 PM	#19
Walker4108 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 159 Likes: 92 Liked 7 Times in 1 Post	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval When will we see the first one on a qualifing sheet?

03-04-2009, 11:19 PM	#20
DonatoEng Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 147 Likes: 13 Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: "DRAG PACK" Challenger gets NHRA approval There are three engines available for the Challenger package car, 6.1L & 5.7L Hemi and the 5.9L Magnum Wedge.