Mustang MPH? - Page 11

Bruce Noland · 02-26-2009, 01:40 PM

Tim,

I don't know jack about Mopar products. But I do understand how much you would like to deflect attention away from the actual numbers for the CJ which you refuse to offer.

The CJ waltzing into Stock is the true absurdity. Not whether we think it should take you 20 years to make the CJ fast. We all know how you did that. How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them?

BlueOval Ralph · 02-26-2009, 01:41 PM

[WRONG Ford Vehicle Assembly- Dearborn Michigan

They are built in FLAT ROCK @ AUTO ALLIANCE Plant

QUOTE=Tim Kish;107796]Jeff - we've been over this before, I even posted production numbers. 5.4L supercharged Mustangs are built by Ford on the same assembly line as every other Mustang they produce. As uninformed as your average Ford dealer is they even know what motor comes in a GT500 (5.4L Supercharged) and where its built (Ford Vehicle Assembly- Dearborn Michigan), says so right on the window sticker.[/QUOTE]

Tim Kish · 02-26-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Tim,

I don't know jack about Mopar products. But I do understand how much you would like to deflect attention away from the actual numbers for the CJ which you refuse to offer.

The CJ waltzing into Stock is the true absurdity. Not whether we think it should take you 20 years to make the CJ fast. We all know how you did that. How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them?

Not deflecting - looking for equal time. Just as unfair that those cars aren't competitive due to incorrect factoring.

The monster HP numbers you are assuming this motor can make will require a pulley change and a bigger throttle body (neither are stock eliminator legal).

Thanks Blue Oval Ralph for the correction - fact remains they are regular Ford production vehicles.

Bruce Noland · 02-26-2009, 01:59 PM

Tim,

That's really nice that you are concerned about the Mopar guys.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm posting what the Ford guys told me. I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks.

Thanks

bsa633 · 02-26-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP

You were able to order them. They were built ready to race. Those are facts that I thought everyone in the discussion understood.

I dont think anyone can..or should i say "could have" bought them..sure looked like a "closed" deal to me.

GUMP · 02-26-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bsa633

I dont think anyone can..or should i say "could have" bought them..sure looked like a "closed" deal to me.

"The Cobra Jet Mustang (M-FR500-CJ) joins Ford Racing's two successful road racing Mustangs, the M-FR500-C and M-FR500-S, as turn-key race cars available only from Ford Dealers. We encourage you to take advantage of this unique opportunity to help rewrite history by ordering and campaining this new race car". (Ford Racing)

GUMP · 02-26-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them?

Bruce,

If you read back over several of the Ford guys posts I think that you will see that they believe that a loophole exists in regards to pulley size. From what I understand, that loophole does not exist, so the stock pullies put a true limit to the HP potential of these motors. Keep in mind too, that a F/I motor will not respond as well to a lot of the normal stocker enhancements as a N/A motor will.

Why not give this a little time?

Daren

bigshow2966 · 02-26-2009, 05:43 PM

Here's a legitimate suggestion for you guys that think the Mustang is factored soft.

Sit down and get your FACTS together as to why you believe the way you do. Submit them in a letter to Glendora. If you have solid evidence and don't merely write some emotional piece of tripe as to why you are getting screwed, maybe, just maybe, they'll add some HP to the Fords.

I have seen it work before. Just remember to stick with FACTS.

Bruce Noland · 02-26-2009, 06:20 PM

Big Show,

Actually that is nhra's job, but they have no facts about this car. Mostly because the FRP folks don't want nhra to know about the real numbers on the CJ motor. A 9.78 on their second effort might set off a few alarms.

Bruce Noland · 02-26-2009, 06:26 PM

Gump,

I'm guilty of reading and responding to the last post before I saw you post.

Sure, they have all the time in the world now. They nearly slipped one by us but we caught it in time and all we can do now is wait for the numbers to come rolling in.

I understand one of these motors may make it to a dyno soon. So they have all the time in the world or until nhra folds which ever comes first.

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Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Mustang MPH? Tim, I don't know jack about Mopar products. But I do understand how much you would like to deflect attention away from the actual numbers for the CJ which you refuse to offer. The CJ waltzing into Stock is the true absurdity. Not whether we think it should take you 20 years to make the CJ fast. We all know how you did that. How about a Horsepower figure on that motor (not the limit)? The FRP folks say 750 with no problem. Do you agree with them? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

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BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mustang MPH? [WRONG Ford Vehicle Assembly- Dearborn Michigan They are built in FLAT ROCK @ AUTO ALLIANCE Plant QUOTE=Tim Kish;107796]Jeff - we've been over this before, I even posted production numbers. 5.4L supercharged Mustangs are built by Ford on the same assembly line as every other Mustang they produce. As uninformed as your average Ford dealer is they even know what motor comes in a GT500 (5.4L Supercharged) and where its built (Ford Vehicle Assembly- Dearborn Michigan), says so right on the window sticker.[/QUOTE]

02-26-2009, 01:59 PM	#104
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Mustang MPH? Tim, That's really nice that you are concerned about the Mopar guys. I'm not assuming anything. I'm posting what the Ford guys told me. I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks. Thanks __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

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bigshow2966 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 654 Likes: 675 Liked 180 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Mustang MPH? Here's a legitimate suggestion for you guys that think the Mustang is factored soft. Sit down and get your FACTS together as to why you believe the way you do. Submit them in a letter to Glendora. If you have solid evidence and don't merely write some emotional piece of tripe as to why you are getting screwed, maybe, just maybe, they'll add some HP to the Fords. I have seen it work before. Just remember to stick with FACTS.

02-26-2009, 06:20 PM	#109
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Mustang MPH? Big Show, Actually that is nhra's job, but they have no facts about this car. Mostly because the FRP folks don't want nhra to know about the real numbers on the CJ motor. A 9.78 on their second effort might set off a few alarms. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

02-26-2009, 06:26 PM	#110
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Mustang MPH? Gump, I'm guilty of reading and responding to the last post before I saw you post. Sure, they have all the time in the world now. They nearly slipped one by us but we caught it in time and all we can do now is wait for the numbers to come rolling in. I understand one of these motors may make it to a dyno soon. So they have all the time in the world or until nhra folds which ever comes first. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK