IMport going rounds in Super Stock at Pomona

[Tom P]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Besides, since Volkswagens were originally made by (what once was) the West Germans, and it was the East Germans who produced Hitler (if my memory isn't deceiving me), so I have no qualms with European vehicles. I may not have lost any (immediate) family in that American tragedy, but I feel as an American, that an innocent part of American history was traumatized forever thanks to companies such as Mitsubishi, and their business allies, plus the country for supporting their warped-minded leaders ideals on that originally docile Sunday morning in Pearl Harbor.

I don't think Scott Kelley has a swastika tattoo or bombed Pearl Harbor and his riceburner is running mid 9's not 13's and that's pretty remarkable for a FWD car running in a bracket race against rear drivers.

Your memory is deceiving you... Hitler had a lot to do with creating the Volkswagen and German race cars kicked everybody back then.

As for Pearl Harbor that was as much the US governments doing as the Japanese.

[Jim Wahl]

Gary, I'm just bustin your chops! Email me jimwahl@embarqmail.com

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Tom P

I don't think Scott Kelley has a swastika tattoo or bombed Pearl Harbor and his riceburner is running mid 9's not 13's and that's pretty remarkable for a FWD car running in a bracket race against rear drivers.

Your memory is deceiving you... Hitler had a lot to do with creating the Volkswagen and German race cars kicked everybody back then.

As for Pearl Harbor that was as much the US governments doing as the Japanese.

Tom what does the P stand for, Pamayota? That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

[Ed Fernandez]

Tom's statement may not seem so dumb.Many people believe Roosevelt had info acquired through intelligence that the Japs were planning the bombing.There were many Americans who were still opposed to us entering the war and Roosevelt supposedly saw this as a way to do it.Was it worth 2500 dead?I don't think so.But it's only a theory.
Racing content: The guy went one more round than half of the field.

Ed F.

[63corvette]

Tom P you need to read a little history before spouting such things.
I guess the planes and pilots that attacked Perl Harbor were american made planes and the pilots citizens of the United States to make it the United States fault? Give me a break.
This sounds like some left wing speak that also denies the Holicost in Germany ever happened!!!!!!!!!!
For those who lost family during the second world war this is a personal attack on those family members memory.
Just let your left wing thinking be said around your left wing friends.
I will NEVER OWN A JAPANESE MADE VEHICLE......
My 2 Cents

[Sean Kennedy]

I think we should just thank this guy for coming out and playing with us. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Steve Mtt]

Its great to see Scott out there running, he is a excellent ambassador from the sport compact ranks. He is like many with similar style cars, very professional, and great racer. I know that some of you guys enjoy bashing on the sport compacts as "kids" "punks" and falling into the stereotypes of NOPI, bikini contest ect. For myself and 90 percent of the racers who competed in NOPI race classes that kind of stuff was annoying beyond belief since it portrayed the racers in a way that was completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Tim Kish

You're not going to see imports in Stock as the people that race imports are by no means working within the confines of rules like Stock eliminator. The tuner scene in general is far more concerned with increasing power through engine swaps and power adders. The only way you might see one is if its found by someone like Bob Shaw to be underfactored enough to be a good candidate for an easy #1 qualifier. Most of the racers you've named and pretty much all of the FWD racers in Stock/SS historically have been involved with class racing prior to building the FWD car.

I must disagree with you, there are plenty of import racers like my self that run "Street Stock" which is very close in nature to SS, no swaps, oem trans/motors, but more lenient on the some of the rules. Right now there is no place for us street cars to cross over, after about a half a dozen emails and no one from NHRA could give me a straight answer what class my car would fit into, and what rules I would have to meet.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Steve Mtt

Its great to see Scott out there running, he is a excellent ambassador from the sport compact ranks. He is like many with similar style cars, very professional, and great racer. I know that some of you guys enjoy bashing on the sport compacts as "kids" "punks" and falling into the stereotypes of NOPI, bikini contest ect. For myself and 90 percent of the racers who competed in NOPI race classes that kind of stuff was annoying beyond belief since it portrayed the racers in a way that was completely wrong.



I must disagree with you, there are plenty of import racers like my self that run "Street Stock" which is very close in nature to SS, no swaps, oem trans/motors, but more lenient on the some of the rules. Right now there is no place for us street cars to cross over, after about a half a dozen emails and no one from NHRA could give me a straight answer what class my car would fit into, and what rules I would have to meet.

Without a turbo you can probably run SS/GS or if it's all out SS/EX (very stiff index) If it's turbo you have a class in comp that was set up for the hotrod class cars.
One thing you have to adjust your car to fit the class, they are not going to adjust a class to fit a car.

[Steve Mtt]

I was more talking about true street cars, SS/EX are practically FWD pro stock cars on meth. I can race at 15 events in the mid atlantic area with my car the way it sits, I would love to cross over and race at NHRA if there was a index class outside of the SS/EX. There is a place and index for allot domestic FWD street cars like neons ect, I would like to see the same for import sport compacts. Per reading through this forum and the rule book my cars oem power weight 2100/110 I would fall into SS/GS with 14.30 index. If I could run this index I would make the changes needed to comply with every rule to race.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Sean Kennedy

I think we should just thank this guy for coming out and playing with us. I don't see anything wrong with it.

Sean, in as much as I refuse to take back any of the stuff I said in this thread (because the car magazines seem to be madly in love with the Toyota's and Honda's of the world, and praise them as if they were GOD's gift to the automotive world), I too thank you Scott for coming out and playing with us. I hope I get a chance to meet you out here in Arizona, at the Lucas Oil Drag Race Series event(s) either in Chandler, or in Tucson. My budget hasn't been kind to me (because of our great economy of late), so racing both of them is a question mark, but I hope to be at Firebird (since it's closest to home)?

I just hope that more of those cars can come out here, because (like someone else said here), the more the merrier!!!

One more thing, I had to send corporate spec info on my Z24 to NHRA back in the 90's for it to be accepted into Stock, so that's what those who wish to run Stock Eliminator (with their sport compacts) need to do as well...imagine the thought of my '86 Z24 running for DF/S class out here against an Acura Integra...I can only dream......