Was anyone else as uncomfortable as I was...

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Bunkster

No female with any brains would ever feel comfortable around any foreign oil sheik. Nor should they: The countries that house them treat and value women worse than dogs.

Julie Jordan needs to rethink and reword absolutely nothing.

Once again everyone is entitled to their opinion however you two are basically saying all men from the mid east are the same in so many words. How much do you really know about their culture? You can't generalize a person based on what their culture does, not everyone follows suit. So for you to say she should be uncomfortable around them is a out of line because you or Julie don't know the owners/partners in Al-Anabi racing.
I try to give everyone a fair shake and not judge then by their "culture". So let me get your's and Julie's thought process correct using myself as an example; I have a friend who has several Confederate Flag's on his vehicle and tow vehicle, should I as an African American be uncomfortable around him because of this? this is basically what you said that because of the way people in the mid east treat their women she shouldn't be comfortable. If I missed something let me know.

[hadtobethere]

and what was the 'ORIGINAL' thread about....uh? I forgot

[s/gas68]

I like how he said at first that he just lifted when it went in to tire shake then he blamed it on a coil wire but watching the replay I never saw the butterflys open after he lifted!?!

[Bunkster]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Once again everyone is entitled to their opinion however you two are basically saying all men from the mid east are the same in so many words. How much do you really know about their culture? You can't generalize a person based on what their culture does, not everyone follows suit. So for you to say she should be uncomfortable around them is a out of line because you or Julie don't know the owners/partners in Al-Anabi racing.
I try to give everyone a fair shake and not judge then by their "culture". So let me get your's and Julie's thought process correct using myself as an example; I have a friend who has several Confederate Flag's on his vehicle and tow vehicle, should I as an African American be uncomfortable around him because of this? this is basically what you said that because of the way people in the mid east treat their women she shouldn't be comfortable. If I missed something let me know.

You have nothing to fear of some flag. You can walk down the streets of Philadelphia, Mississippi, and the odds of you being accosted by some old klanner animal, like Lawrence Rainey, would be zero.

Now, on the other hand, as we speak, sharia law is quite active in the Middle East, even Qatar. Please tell me I don’t have to explain sharia law to you.

Racist? That word means absolutely nothing anymore. It’s been so overused and misused. Now, if you wish to call me a “culturalist”, I’ll plead guilty. There are some cultures that are downright loathsome.

[Michael Lyons]

No one should have had to tell Larry anything, he should have been able to figure it out by the fact that it was Saturday and almost dark and looking like more rain. He just made a goof, it happens, I'm sure he will force that thing to the finish line on every single run the rest of the year now! They can afford to tear some stuff up LOL

[david ring]

I have to back what an earlier person said about Qatar being our ally-we have military bases there and the country is quite ok with that.

[Tom P]

Like Mr Lyons says above, it was obviously the last and only qualifying session. Nobody should have counted on another pass Sunday since they were so far behind.

Hard to believe that was 4 days ago and the race still isn't over yet.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Once again everyone is entitled to their opinion however you two are basically saying all men from the mid east are the same in so many words. How much do you really know about their culture? You can't generalize a person based on what their culture does, not everyone follows suit. So for you to say she should be uncomfortable around them is a out of line because you or Julie don't know the owners/partners in Al-Anabi racing.
I try to give everyone a fair shake and not judge then by their "culture". So let me get your's and Julie's thought process correct using myself as an example; I have a friend who has several Confederate Flag's on his vehicle and tow vehicle, should I as an African American be uncomfortable around him because of this? this is basically what you said that because of the way people in the mid east treat their women she shouldn't be comfortable. If I missed something let me know.

Smitty, I understood (just like Bunkster), exactly what Julie meant by what she said, but to answer your questions about your friend with the confederate flags, it depends on why he has them all over his vehicle:

1. Is it because he has southern pride, and wishes to uphold the down home friendly values so noted with southerners, plus even the joy of watching the General Lee Dodge Charger of The Dukes of Hazard, leaping around Sheriff Boss Hog?

or

2. Does he hold to any degree the mindset prevalent amongst those who wish segregration, and any kind of dominance of whites over blacks (and in some places still does) exist. Beyond the notion that a persons ethnicity determines whether they're an equal or not? I thought it was interesting that a racer who displayed those flags around his trailer (and even placed a large one high in the back of the grandstands at last Nov.'s LODRS DIV 7 race at Las Vegas), had to remove them due to the possible ironics between that and the presence of several racers at the event who happened to be black (I being one of them).

As long as this Al-Anabi relationship becomes good for American relations with our Arabic allies, then I'm for it (just as I'm sure Julie is). My only problem is accepting his placing a Toyota body, on his funny car...I was always told that the best way to deal with a problem is to confront the problem and find ways to fix it, not run away from it---especially if it's fixable, and our economic problems are fixable, but it starts with taking care of our own first, then going global once we're ok...not bringing ourselves down to make others good...look where that's gotten us???