2008 Cobra Jets belong in Stock

[art leong]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Acid porting is a "misnomer". The "acid" and now today "Media blasting" just hides the port work being done. Its been more than 20 years since I first became aware of it and the "powers to be" just turned thier heads exceot for the S/S head rule change. Let the games begin.

I know it was done in 1979 I have quite a story about that. Won't get into it here.
And NO we never ran anything but a "true" stock head.( A look at our MPH could verify that).One of the main reasons we quit stock eliminator in 1981. If we continued to race in stock, we would have been forced to do it. And if we were to get caught I didn't want "the world" to think we were doing it all along.
Thats is why I get hostile when somebody talks bad about boost on the turbo cars. To raise airflow on a turbo car it costs about a dollar. How much is it to acid port, chemically clean, media blast,etc a head and intake manifold? Run a "stocker" cam? ETC. ETC.
I always thought stock should be kept as low buck as possible. I remember winning the York US 30 invitational and having to spend the Monday following the race at the track because they paid us by check and the banks weren't open till Tuesday. Once we made the semi finals we spent what gas money we had on food, knowing we were in the money.

[Jeff Lee]

Amazing how "off topic" you guys can go here!

[Tim Kish]

You think people are crying about the Cobra Jets, allow a ZR1 corvette to run Stock. Since from the factory this car has: Titanium Rods, Titanium Valves, CNC ported heads, a dry sump oil system, tubular exhaust manifolds that are as good as most headers and the same demon blower as the Cobra Jet ( different housing but same size displacement blower). And come to think of it, with all that and at a larger displacement than the Cobra Jet (6.2L vs 5.4) its only rated at 638HP. And to get that 638HP the factory exhaust system has vacuum actuated cutouts to bypass the mufflers.

The key everyone keeps missing is that NHRA's system uses what they call a HP rating but if there is a single car out there that actually only produces the rated HP level it can't run the index. These new performance cars come from the factory with a large percentage of the tricks that get Stockers to the level they are today as legal mods above and beyond the base HP rating. As such they can not be compared on the same scale.

[Rusty Gillis]

The point I was trying to make is if you can buy it new from the dealer Ford, Chevy or Dodge NHRA should have a class for it in stock if the manufacture provides HP and shipping weights. There needs to be a place in stock for these 500 +++ HP new cars.

[Bruce Noland]

Good point. I agree. But nhra staff needs to do their homework as well. They accepted the 425 Horsepower rating from the Ford Parts people without question.

[goinbroke2]

Gotta get one last jab at the fords eh Bruce?

I said this in the LAST thread about the CJ's, Start off at 5lb's for A and go to Z. We don't need AA or any additional numbers if the factor starts in the right place. A is the fastest at 5 per hp and Z can be 28 and up or whatever.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Gotta get one last jab at the fords eh Bruce?

I said this in the LAST thread about the CJ's, Start off at 5lb's for A and go to Z. We don't need AA or any additional numbers if the factor starts in the right place. A is the fastest at 5 per hp and Z can be 28 and up or whatever.

Do you think the CJ debate is over? BTW you missed the point. It was about nhra staff doing their job(s)!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Gotta get one last jab at the fords eh Bruce?

I said this in the LAST thread about the CJ's, Start off at 5lb's for A and go to Z. We don't need AA or any additional numbers if the factor starts in the right place. A is the fastest at 5 per hp and Z can be 28 and up or whatever.

Does that mean a '68 HEMI 'Cuda or Hemi Dart can run C/S if 5 lbs is A and 5.5 lbs is B and 6 lbs is C since they made about 100 copies. Maybe a 7 lb class '64 Ford T-Bolt (100 copies again) or '69 AMX?????