Combo in the Hills 3 Idea's

[BKSG1198]

Good Morning Guys & Gals!

Well as most of you know Lee & Brian are off to explore the world of Pro Stock racing for the 2013 season. With that being said they will not have the time to put the effort to do another Combo in the Hills event next year. I've asked Lee & Brian about taking over the race since I personally didn't want to see it fade away and the graciously agreed. So with that being said I will be working hard on a 2013 version of the Combo in the Hills event and your feedback is important. Now rather you came to the first event in 2010, the one this year or both please give us some feedback as to what you would like to see in the near future.

I look forward to working with all of you and keeping the Combo in the Hills Name alive for years to come!

[BKSG1198]

Since I'm having trouble with the poll if you want to just put your answers down below you can do so.

1.Would you like to see Stock & Super Stock Split into 2 sep classes and the winner of each elim run a "King of the Hill" for a little extra purse
YES
NO

2.Did you like the CIC Race held on Friday Evening?
YES
NO

3.Along with the CIC Race on Friday Night would you like to see a Stk/SS Combo Race held for all the others who don't like the CIC Format?
YES
NO

4.Would you like to have the event held before or after a LODRS Event that maybe local (IE - Maple Grove, Cecil)?
YES
NO

5.If there was a Guaranteed purse (Say $4,000) offered to the winner would you attend?
YES
NO

6.Would you like to have a 3rd event on Sunday or keep that as a travel day?
YES - Extra Event / Rain Date
NO - Keep as a travel day

[Eric Merryfield]

Originally Posted by BKSG1198

Since I'm having trouble with the poll if you want to just put your answers down below you can do so.

1.Would you like to see Stock & Super Stock Split into 2 sep classes and the winner of each elim run a "King of the Hill" for a little extra purse
YES
NO

No I like it the way it is.

2.Did you like the CIC Race held on Friday Evening?
YES
NO

Yes but it doesn't apply to all

3.Along with the CIC Race on Friday Night would you like to see a Stk/SS Combo Race held for all the others who don't like the CIC Format?
YES
NO

Yes all can participate

4.Would you like to have the event held before or after a LODRS Event that maybe local (IE - Maple Grove, Cecil)?
YES
NO

Not sure on that

5.If there was a Guaranteed purse (Say $4,000) offered to the winner would you attend?
YES
NO

Don't need a guaranteed purse to attend.

6.Would you like to have a 3rd event on Sunday or keep that as a travel day?
YES - Extra Event / Rain Date
NO - Keep as a travel day

Like the travel day, plus it is likely an easier sell with the track, so they can have their regular points day.

[Michael Beard]

1.Would you like to see Stock & Super Stock Split into 2 sep classes and the winner of each elim run a "King of the Hill" for a little extra purse

No. I think just keeping the classes separate as long as possible is sufficient, while allowing you to advertise one large standardized purse

2.Did you like the CIC Race held on Friday Evening?

Don't see why not if it doesn't cost the promoters/track anything extra.

3.Along with the CIC Race on Friday Night would you like to see a Stk/SS Combo Race held for all the others who don't like the CIC Format?

Yes. I really enjoyed the Friday Gamblers we did last year.

4.Would you like to have the event held before or after a LODRS Event that maybe local (IE - Maple Grove, Cecil)?

The scheduling of the event itself is more important to me than the dates/events around it.

5.If there was a Guaranteed purse (Say $4,000) offered to the winner would you attend?

I don't think that's necessary, but in my opinion, we could strike a balance between the big money offered last year ($275 for $10K with a 125 car minimum) and the strong round money payout of this year ($150 for $4K with a 100 car min). I think they had around 80 cars last year, with bad weather, short notice, and a theoretically bad date (Mother's Day weekend). It was discussed that maybe the big money kept some people away last year. With a better date, better weather, and half the cars, was it just the format? Promotion? Sponsors? I couldn't make it this year due to issues with my truck. I didn't get it fixed til late Friday afternoon, so I elected for the race 5 hours closer for me. With the cost of travel these days, I'm willing to pay a little more at the gate for a greater potential reward. If you split the difference on entry/payout, you could reduce the car count minimum requirement to a very realistic and attainable number.

Proposed 2013 Formats (roughly same Net as this year's format):
$250 entry..............$200 entry
Win $7,000.............Win $5,000
R/U $2,500..............R/U $1,500
Semi $1,000............Semi $800
Rnd 5L $600...........Rnd 5L $400
Rnd 4L $400...........Rnd 4L $300
Rnd 3L $200...........Rnd 3L $200
...........75 Car Minimum...........

2012 Format
$150 Entry
Win $4,000
R/U $1,000
Semi $600
Rnd 5L $400
Rnd 4L $300
Rnd 3L $200
100 Car Minimum

2011 Format
$275 Entry (various pre-entry discounts were offered)
Win $10,000
R/U $4,000
Semi $1,000
Rnd 5L $400
Rnd 4L $200
Rnd 3L $100
125 Car Minimum

6.Would you like to have a 3rd event on Sunday or keep that as a travel day?

Travel day / Rain Date / or race in the track's bracket program.

[BKSG1198]

Really the hardest part will be trying to find a date...haha. With Epping coming into the mix with a National Event next year Leb Valley has to go somewhere because Epping will be on top of the LV Date as of right now. I found out last year putting the 90 Race on top of Bowling Green D-3 race was a big No-No even though a Hurricane had other idea's....lol. It really won't all come into play until the schedule is released in Sept / Oct. I assume that E-Town will prob move around in the National Event Dates and with Epping into play not too many people will have to travel down to Bristol / Charlotte to claim an extra National (Even though they will). Then you have all the associations (ECSSA, ASRA, MASGA, MASCA)....boy good thing I have vacation coming up...haha!

[BKSG1198]

Mike,
A few of the 90 Guys said the same thing to me. If you offer up these big $$$ events all the "Heavy Hitters" are going to show up. I was kind of taken back by the comment but, these same people are the ones that enter National Events where even more "Heavy Hitters" are entered. I mean what am I supposed to tell Pete Biondo or Jason Kenny, sorry guys you can't run this event cause you have a single digit or double digits on your car...lol. In my own opinion "Any Given Sunday" anyone of us can pull there car into the winner's circle rather is be by luck or flat out the car was deadly. The S/G winner had 3 red-lights in 5 rounds.

[BILL TAYLOR]

Originally Posted by BKSG1198

Good Morning Guys & Gals!

Well as most of you know Lee & Brian are off to explore the world of Pro Stock racing for the 2013 season. With that being said they will not have the time to put the effort to do another Combo in the Hills event next year. I've asked Lee & Brian about taking over the race since I personally didn't want to see it fade away and the graciously agreed. So with that being said I will be working hard on a 2013 version of the Combo in the Hills event and your feedback is important. Now rather you came to the first event in 2010, the one this year or both please give us some feedback as to what you would like to see in the near future.

I look forward to working with all of you and keeping the Combo in the Hills Name alive for years to come!

Thanks Rob for stepping up to the plate and keeping this thing alive. BILL TAYLOR STK1005

[Pistol Pete]

Thank you Rob for taking on this event, even if your a .90 guy.... lol

This race will be another success i'm sure.

A couple of ideas come to mind: maybe a" perfect light " award, a "dead on" award (like the strange award).

How 'bout picking numbers for 1st rd. pairings. 1 runs 1 2 runs 2 ect....

[Ryan Horensky]

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

Thank you Rob for taking on this event, even if your a .90 guy.... lol

This race will be another success i'm sure.

A couple of ideas come to mind: maybe a" perfect light " award, a "dead on" award (like the strange award).

How 'bout picking numbers for 1st rd. pairings. 1 runs 1 2 runs 2 ect....

If you're going to pick numbers...you might as well use a qualifying sheet. Random pairing seems to work fine with a ladder after the first round or two. If the classes are split at next years race....a qualifying sheet and ladder might work well.

[BKSG1198]

Pete,

All great idea's that I have thought about. We did a few things with the .90 Guys this year...

Dan Northrop put up a $100.00 to whomever took out John Asta in eliminations
Crane Came put up $250.00 GC to the 1st drive in each class to run a 90.0 & win
Jiffy-Tite gave away a GC to the #1 Qualifier
Motorsports Innovation (Racepack) gave away a GC to the #1 Qualifier in each class

I mean I'd be all about doing things to increase the interest for this race in 2013. If someone wants to put a little extra cash up for "Perfect Light In Elim" "Dead On Award" "Long Distance Towing award" "Whomever takes out the previous champ of the CITH in Elim...sorry Byron". I'd like to make this a worthwhile event but, in the meantime still keeping it Racer Friendly. In my mind it's still about the racers...you are the ones who choose to come to these races and spend your money. My job is to make sure you have fun, I give you a worth while product for your $$ and you all leave with a laugh, chuckle or smile on your face and say "that was a great race". Of course you won't make everyone happy but, you can't blame me for trying" as the world famous Bill Bader once said. So if someone wants to jump on board for one of those awards or make up your own award and put the cash up I'd be more then willing to include it into the prizes. For those who follow Facebook we now have a new site set-up and I should have a website within a few weeks.