Z-11 CHEVY vs NEW FORD CJ

[X-TECH MAN]

I remember when the 1963 Z-11 Chevy came out. They made 25 in the first run then 25 more about a month later then 7 to use up the left over parts. Total 57 cars. At the 1963 Winternationals NHRA made a NEW class for them and the new 1963 light weight Fords because not enough had been sold or available. It was called L/P (Limited production) with 7 inch slicks. This class was run just at the Winter Nats. The few (both chevy Z-11 and fiberglass Fords) that showed up with 10 inch slicks ran A/FX. After the Winternationals they (the Z-11's) all ran A/FX with 10 inch slicks. The Chevy guys had no other choice as they were not allowed in S/S (to fast for the Fords and Mopars at that time) Remember S/S back then was just like a stocker except it was the top wt breaks for production cars so S/S didnt mean anything special except they were the highest class like AA/S is today. They even ran OEM camshafts (the winner of L/P was bounced for an illegal cam). The Ford light weights ran either S/S or A/FX depending on the size tire the racer ran (thier choice) as they finally made and sold 100 fiberglass front end Fords. The point is that NHRA made a special class for these NEW and powerful cars (at that time) for ONE RACE until they either had enough on the market and sold to anyone who wanted one and/or had a chance to see how they ran in competition. Why didnt NHRA do this again until enough people who wanted one had them on the track?

[Mark Yacavone]

Terry, Maybe because NHRA is on a campaign to eliminate classes.
You said it yourself. FWD may be next.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Terry, Maybe because NHRA is on a campaign to eliminate classes.
You said it yourself. FWD may be next.

True....but it would have been for the ONE race (the winter "WETTER" nationals) until enough were in peoples hands and on the track. Yes....I have heard that the FWD cars just might end up in the same class as the same wt break RWD cars just as the trucks run with the cars now.

[Travis Miller]

The third paragraph of SECTION 8A - STOCK CARS on page 102 of the 2009 NHRA rulebook reads as follows:

<"OEM may apply for inclusion of any special production runs into the Official NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide. Special runs must include a minimum of 50 units of an already accepted body style, need not be showroom available. Applications evaluated on an individual basis. Acceptance will not imply precedent.">

This is not a new rule. It has been in the NHRA rulebook since 1997. Looks like Ford "applied for inclusion" and was granted acceptance. What OEM will be the next to step up and build a "special production run"?

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

[junior barns]

Hi Travis

Acceptance will not imply precedent

Lets say GM or Chrysler comes out with an outright BOGUS HP rating on a special production run.
Wonder if NHRA will (would) apply this part of the rule???

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by junior barns

Hi Travis

Acceptance will not imply precedent

Lets say GM or Chrysler comes out with an outright BOGUS HP rating on a special production run.
Wonder if NHRA will (would) apply this part of the rule???

Are they major sponsors anymore?

Ed F.

[junior barns]

That's what I think!

Todays world is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME "LATELY"

[Bob Pagano]

I have heard this before, why aren't the 64-65 race hemi's and 68 cuda's and dart's good to go for stock with spring sup. and stock engine parts ? There were more than 50 of them built ??

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

I have heard this before, why aren't the 64-65 race hemi's and 68 cuda's and dart's good to go for stock with spring sup. and stock engine parts ? There were more than 50 of them built ??

The 64 and 65's are legal along with the '64 T-Bolts in IHRA as the AA class is 7.0 lbs per HP. The 68's are to light until either IHRA or NHRA moves the wt breaks to 6.0. Never happen.

[udog1]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Terry, Maybe because NHRA is on a campaign to eliminate classes.
You said it yourself. FWD may be next.

They allready did it to me,remember!!.