Bill Bader Jr. "we are going to open"

[Mike Taylor 3601]

I have been waiting and watching here in KY.. I feel either,what has been done, along with population less, more spread out, than other places has helped/worked...
or it is just getting started here.... IDK which or either are right...time will tell..
my thoughts are if Bader and or others open and it goes good... people are OK.. then I will consider getting out... if it goes bad..I'm keeping my butt here in shop like its been for past month....
I completely understand Bader's frustration, yet at same time.... I'm setting there watching video..... thinking of David, Lewis and Mrs. Conkey

We all are in a spot that NO ONE is going to win...either your are going to lose physically, mentally or financially....

[Jim Bailey]

You guys up north might not be exposed to this, yet, because of the weather. But most every Golf Course, including County owned, are open in Florida. Social distancing is not a problem when playing golf with me …. But, if you can social distance enough to play golf, my thought is with a little common sense it can be done at the drags.

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

You guys up north might not be exposed to this, yet, because of the weather. But most every Golf Course, including County owned, are open in Florida. Social distancing is not a problem when playing golf with me …. But, if you can social distance enough to play golf, my thought is with a little common sense it can be done at the drags.

On the other hand. many states tried to leave parks and hiking trails open so people could walk, run and cycle. People were not able to maintain proper distance for those activities so many states closed parks entirely.

[Chevy55]

Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

You guys up north might not be exposed to this, yet, because of the weather. But most every Golf Course, including County owned, are open in Florida. Social distancing is not a problem when playing golf with me …. But, if you can social distance enough to play golf, my thought is with a little common sense it can be done at the drags.

The golf courses were open here on Long Island and they got so crowded that they were all shut down last week.

They even pulled the cups an inch and half out of the hole and all you had to do was hit the cup, saved everybody from reaching in the hole.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

So Jim who is being stupid? The man trying to protect the people of his state or a greedy track owner?

Of course, I think of the Conkey family..all the time.
The man says he put his profits back into the business, rather than a vault somewhere. He doesn't have cash on hand to survive ,without re-opening soon . He employs hundred of locals..Now down to three. He doesn't take a salary.
Perhaps you ought to define "greed" for us.

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Perhaps you ought to define "greed" for us.

So what happens if he reopens and three weeks later, a number of people who went to his track test positive for COVID-19? What will happen if any of them die?

In addition to the PR hit that he and the track will take, there could also be lawsuits. It won't just be him ... it will be every other business and organization that their name on the track.

Do you think his insurance company told him it is OK with his plan to reopen?

In a case like this, I would define greed as when money overrides good judgement and common sense.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

So what happens if he reopens and three weeks later, a number of people who went to his track test positive for COVID-19? What will happen if any of them die?

In addition to the PR hit that he and the track will take, there could also be lawsuits. It won't just be him ... it will be every other business and organization that their name on the track.

Do you think his insurance company told him it is OK with his plan to reopen?

In a case like this, I would define greed as when money overrides good judgement and common sense.

First, I haven't heard one story how anyone, famous or otherwise, specifically contracted the disease.
Sure, someone, let's say from Cleveland, might attend an event at Norwalk, and then test positive, of course, not knowing if they got it at the track. That person might then hire a lawyer and try to pin it on Mr. Bader and co. He would have to deal with that aspect. I'm sure he thought this all through.

Another option would be to keep the track closed and then lose his livelihood and that of others involved.

Perhaps you ought to define "good judgement and common sense" .

[Lenny5160]

I don't worry about maintaining proper social distancing at the race track, but at the same time, I haven't touched a gas pump handle in over a month. On a typical race weekend, I'm filling the motorhome, filling gas cans, buying a bag of ice. People from all over the region will be intermingling at various points along the way.

It seems that the liability could be enormous, and a bigger threat to the track's future than just remaining closed under federal or state guidelines.

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

It seems that the liability could be enormous, and a bigger threat to the track's future than just remaining closed under federal or state guidelines.

The liability could extend to anyone with whom he has a business relationship in operating the track. Sponsors. Sanctioning bodies. Insurance companies.

[Dwight Southerland]

Do what you want to do. Liberty. The government is not smart enough to know how to protect people from themselves. Since the survival rate is around 98%, just catching the disease is not terminal. Don't be foolish (hard for some people), but don't live in fear because your sensibilities are being bombarded constantly with a single message.