Sticks & Autos Together (Class)

[hemidup]

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci

NHRA has made a change to class so that sticks and autos with only one car in the class will run together. I think this is a great idea and they should have combined the two full time years ago. What is the latest qualm with doing so? It will increase the likelihood of heads-up runs and the advantages/disadvantages of each seem to be more and more minimal as automatic transmission technology has caught up and potentially passed that of manual transmissions. The records are very similar with most automatics being faster. I know this has been brought up before but I still fail to see why it would be so problematic.

I agree.... Yes, the automatic transmission technology has come a long way since the 70's and back then I only ran a stick cause they were faster. With today's auto's, you also have the updated option's with an automatic which makes them just as fast or faster than a stick...Take a look at a PSC computer contolled TCM programer. I can dial in the shift points with one touch on my lap top key pad. Put it in "D" for dumb and let er buck without manually shifting a gear with no tach or shift light. I'd love to see a clucthless allowed in Stock. Just my .02.

[Tom keedle]

so guys, what's next?
traction control?
wheel tubs?
fiberglass and lexan?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Tom keedle

so guys, what's next?
traction control?
wheel tubs?
fiberglass and lexan?

Remote Control (R/C) like the .90 classes.

[bill dedman]

Why would you want to add any of those things to Stock?

I was just looking for an easy way to counteract clutchless transmissions in the automatic cars, IF the sticks got no-clutch shifting. Seemed like a logical tradeoff to me.

What's wrong with the idea?

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Why would you want to add any of those things to Stock?

I was just looking for an easy way to counteract clutchless transmissions in the automatic cars, IF the sticks got no-clutch shifting. Seemed like a logical tradeoff to me.

What's wrong with the idea?

There is already an Eliminator where clutchless transmissions and transbrakes are permitted. It's called Super Stock. If you want those concessions, move to S/S. Sticks and autos are only combined in very few classes (and the auto's get 5% or 250 pound (whichever is greater) in the S/S Modified and GT Truck classes, and FWD Stock classes are a 100 pound advantage), so the whole argument of sticks vs auto's in the same class is pretty moot.

I still haven't seen a definitive answer to my question early on, about Classes where sticks and auto's can run together, I would guess your trans type would determine which Class Combo Race you would run.